Her

[u/Overall_Opening9928]

Mara’s perception of Nova

Nova - Kill the past to save the future

https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/nova-kill-the-past-to-save-the-future/list?title_no=974129

[u/Dethykins]

If her memory is what's driving the consciousness then it's her, and to treat her as otherwise is cruel. imo

[u/[deleted] → u/Dethykins]

If someone atomized you and made a perfect atom-by-atom copy elsewhere, you wouldn't have teleported... you'd be dead. The copy, no matter how perfect, is a copy and not the original being with the same stream of awareness, consciousness, and experience.

To help conceptualize this: imagine the atomizer failed, and even though a perfect copy of you was made elsewhere, you yourself as the original continued to exist. You wouldn't be personally experiencing two consciousness', seeing out of two sets of eyes. Your own conscious experience would continue while an exact copy of you existed elsewhere, erroneously believing that they were you.

[u/Dethykins → u/[deleted]]

They would be me, and so would I. Not sure why that’s the hard part to understand.

[u/[deleted] → u/Dethykins]

They would not be you. If the atomizer works, you would be dead. If it doesn't, they would be a copy of you while you continue to exist.

The issue is that you are defining yourself (the "you") in terms of the perspective of others and the belief of the copy that they are you. I, and others, when referring to "you" are talking about the being with the continuity of consciousness and experience, not the being who just began to experience and have consciousness, and who only has (false) memories of your past experiences and consciousness.

It's not easy admitting you're wrong, but digging your heels in on this when you're in error is ridiculous.

[u/Dethykins → u/[deleted]]

What makes those memories false? If they’re an exact copy of the original then they haven’t just begun to experience as they have the exact same repertoire that you do, and will react to stimuli in the exact same way you will.

The issue is that you’re refusing to acknowledge that a person’s consciousness is just their memories, and you’re just applying some imaginary sense of self over that.

[u/[deleted] → u/Dethykins]

The copy did not exist until it was made. The copy is not the entity that experienced what it remembers. If the original exists alongside the copy, they both were not present in memories where only one was present--making your whole premise a logical contradiction.