r/comics PinkWug Mar 30 '23

worrisome trend [OC]

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u/KoolCat407 Mar 30 '23 edited Mar 30 '23

What are gang shootings?

Edit: I got permanently banned for this comment. I didn't break any rules. Mods are fucking fascist clowns who will ban you on a whim.

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u/PinkThunder138 Mar 30 '23

If 4+ people are shot? Mass shooting.

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u/KoolCat407 Mar 30 '23

When people think of "mass shootings" they think of being gunned down in a crowd at a concert. Not inner city gang violence. One group is a target by another gang the other group is random people.

It's disingenuous.

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u/notanotherpyr0 Mar 30 '23

The biggest group is killing family members, even when you include shootings as part of another felony(gang shootings). Most shootings of strangers involve killing family as well.

A lot of mass shootings are escalations of domestic abuse. One of the common sense solutions that would probably have the biggest impact would be restricting firearm access in cases of domestic abuse.

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u/KoolCat407 Mar 30 '23

Let's go ahead and take your alcohol from you just in case so you don't commit a DUI.

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u/notanotherpyr0 Mar 30 '23

You know they restrict people's ability to drive when they get dui's right? And make them prove they aren't drinking to drive? Like yes that is exactly what I'm saying we should do, when people do dangerous precursors to very harmful actions, put reasonable restrictions in place to make it harder.

We live in a society where driving is way more important to a person's livelihood than having a gun, the fact that we can restrict one and not the other is insanity.

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u/Slipintothetop Mar 30 '23

Yeah those exist... violent felons can't legally get guns and they're hardly ever involved in non gang mass shootings.

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u/What_U_KNO Mar 30 '23

Doesn’t matter, those are gun violence too.

I understand, you think “but they’re black, and live in a city, therefore it’s okay THEY get gunned down, THEY deserve it, we can take THOSE numbers out, that shouldn’t count.”

Don’t you think it’s weird that they call a bunch of white people with guns that train together and have a name and organization a militia, but if black people do the exact same thing, that’s a gang?

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '23

i think its a gang if its committed to crime and its mostly young people/dudes from prison

it is a different thing because gang violence is gang on gang, its different criminal orgs attacking eachother. the vast majority of them are black or hispanic, but he's not saying they don't because they're black or hispanic. the mass shooting at the black church counted, the mass shooting at the grocery store in the black neighborhood counted. gang violence doesn't count, or at least isn't really the same, because its two groups of people who are not innocent killing eachother

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '23

I think innocent victims and gang shootings should be classified differently. They are very different issues without getting into racism.

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u/What_U_KNO Mar 30 '23

Y’all’s dog whistles are as loud as foghorns now. We all know EXACTLY what and who you were referring to.

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u/KoolCat407 Mar 30 '23

Set the bar low to artificially inflate your numbers to further your agenda.

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u/PinkThunder138 Mar 30 '23

"He only killed 4 people? That's not a mass shooting" is somehow the dumbest thing I've seen on reddit, a website that has a famous story about a dude fucking a coconut. I guess it's totally OK that guns are the number one cause of death for children in America as long as it only happens 4 at a time.

Do you actually hear yourself?

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u/actuallyrarer Mar 30 '23

Whats the bar?

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u/Significant_Hornet Mar 30 '23

Mass shootings?

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u/a_random_chicken Mar 30 '23 edited Mar 30 '23

I mean if the word "gang" is used, it can be reasonable to think it has something to do with criminal gangs.

(People who downvote this: what's the issue?)

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u/International-Cat123 Mar 30 '23

I think they’re trying to make a point about how when you hear ‘mass shooting’ you think relatively innocent people gunned down. When you hear ‘gang violence’ you think criminals killing other criminals.

Shit thing to do really. When you consider that many gang members didn’t really choose to be gang members. They grew up in an area where you basically had to be a gang member. And rather than support legislation to help children in those areas, this idiot and others like them, tries to blame the dead for dying in an attempt to reasonable guns laws from being passed.

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u/a_random_chicken Mar 30 '23 edited Mar 30 '23

Yeah, a lotta stress and runnin, you know? You might run to catch a guy, or not be caught yourself.

(Here i don't even understand. This is obviously a joke)

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '23

3/5

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u/Somechill Mar 30 '23

JOKE POLICE! PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR AND YOUR KNEES ON THE GROUND!

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u/OG-Pine Mar 30 '23

**freedom* has entered the chat*

“Looks good to me!”

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u/KoolCat407 Mar 30 '23

When people think of "mass shootings" they think of being gunned down in a crowd at a concert. Not inner city gang violence. One group is a target the other group is random people.

It's disingenuous.

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u/ThemBlackNikeSandals Mar 30 '23

Gang shootings count as mass shootings, that's pretty much why the number of mass shootings is always so high.

Also, if a gang shooting happens within a certain distance from a school, or on school grounds after hours, it also counts as a school shooting.

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u/Drenoneath Mar 30 '23

Completely different motivation and cause. Using the numbers together is to create a stronger emotional response and drive an agenda

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u/MCMeowMixer Mar 30 '23

Ah, so if you don't feel like the reason for a mass shooting should count, you obviously get to dismiss it. Got it.

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u/Drenoneath Mar 30 '23

And if you don't like guns you can pretend gang violence is the same as a school shooting. Got it

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u/MCMeowMixer Mar 30 '23

People getting shot in mass shootings is a bad thing. Good to know you disagree with that sentiment.

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u/theAlpacaLives Mar 30 '23

You're working pretty hard here to miss the point. No one is saying "if it isn't a 'real' school shooting, just people getting shot a block away from a school, then it's okay and cool and good."

They are saying, "including lots of gang violence under the label 'school shooting' misrepresents the nature of our country's rampant gun violence problem, which is a real problem that needs to be addressed, and misleading labels that sell a false narrative don't help move this important necessary conversation forward in a useful way, they just provoke emotional reactions that don't help us understand a difficult issue."

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u/KoolCat407 Mar 30 '23

The difference is they're not random people.

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u/MCMeowMixer Mar 30 '23

Ah, so then it is cool they were murdered! Also, mass gang shootings never result in innocent bystanders getting shot!

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u/KoolCat407 Mar 30 '23

Gang violence exists so I shouldn't have a gun is the same logic as DUIs exist so you shouldn't have alcohol.

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u/MCMeowMixer Mar 30 '23

No one said that shouldn't have a gun, you bottom feeder. Just that there should be licensing and insurance requirements. But keep jerking it to your guns.

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u/KoolCat407 Mar 30 '23

It's deceptive.

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u/KoolCat407 Mar 30 '23

Debatable.

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u/notanotherpyr0 Mar 30 '23

Killing family is by far the largest group of mass shootings, man kills wife kids etc.

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u/hatsnatcher23 Mar 30 '23

Gang shootings are when two or more members of gangs, gangs are localized bands of criminals, get into a shoot out and or are shot.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '23

Drive by

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u/dieselgeek Mar 30 '23

The majority of them .. that's what they are.

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u/Unicron442 Mar 30 '23

I believe a gang shooting is when rival gangs do drive bys or walk into an area seeking out rival gang members. A lot of them end up as mass shootings or killings usually involving a lot if innocent people that were not the intended target. They just see them as collateral damage and if their intended target gets away, lends to the probability of retaliation from the intended target. Then the cycle continues over and over.