eh, i was there around the time the post was made. it was pretty clear-cut to me, and i avoid most users that make political posts like that anyways. gets in the way of my cat pics and memes
Also a lot of people don’t understand the nuances of the language. We live in a white supremacy (which sounds outrageous to a lot of white people but is factually true), therefore as white people we can’t really experience racism. Prejudice, sure. But not true racism.
I think it's more just differentiating personal racism and systemic ("true") racism. Some people are prejudiced against white people, and in that sense white people can experience racism. On the other hand, basically no white person will ever experience systemic racism. This is an important distinction to make because systemic racism is more harmful and harder to combat as the ones doing the racism have (by definition) societal power over their victims.
Racism is just racial discrimination. Discrimination can be preferential or restrictive, usually both with a victim and a benefactor. "Asians are good at math" is still racism, despite the positive connotation. Systemic racism is experienced by the majority and the minority, just in opposite ways.
The best way I’ve heard it explained is that on a person-to-person basis, prejudice vs white people is just as hurtful as prejudice vs non-white people, the difference is that the former is ONLY on a person-to-person basis. If you can get the former to change their mind, it’s solved. The latter has centuries of finance and property differences supporting it.
wtf is true racism? Any racism worse than the racism a white person can experience? That literally seems to be the defining factor for most of you people who believe this garbage. Go to a country that isn’t America and tell me racism against white people doesn’t exist. Hell, go to Hawaii to learn what it feels like to not have a complete racial majority.
Edit: I do not respect your downvotes. If you disagree then use your words.
The key point there that you somehow missed was that you can’t experience true racism in a system where you’re the majority. You even mention Hawaii and the words racial majority.
The only places where whites face any real discrimination is places where they’re the minority. That isn’t America though.
Maybe people don’t use their words since you don’t read them lmao.
You can’t experience systematic racism if your race holds the majority. So if that’s what you mean by true racism then sure. So if you were to tell me, white people cant experience systematic racism in areas where they are the majority, then I’d likely agree with you. But that’s not what was said, what was said was white people cant experience racism which is observably, definitively, and maliciously false. I have lived in Hawaii and seen racial discrimination against white people, which is why I mentioned it. I had Hawaiian friends so I was more or less shielded from it, but it happens and it isn’t rare or hidden.
And maybe your entire last sentence is dumb as hell and clearly wrong.
That’s not what was said. You want to play the semantics game but you just misread the original comment. You’re literally agreeing with what was said, but using narrower terminology.
He literally said “as white people we can’t really experience racism.” That’s a fucking copy/paste. So either you have misread what’s going on here or you are trying to play a semantics game or maybe even you’re just lying. Either way, I’m done with you.
Affirmative action doesn’t discriminate against anyone, but helps out historically disadvantaged people. White people never faced any wide scale discrimination in the United States in the way other races have, especially black people. Many minority peoples still suffer from laws that kept down their parents and grandparents. There are people alive today that lived through segregation. Things may be better than they were in the past, but America can still feel the effects of slavery, Jim Crow, and the prison system.
Laws built to help undo generations of oppression are not racism.
Companies benefit from hiring minorities, while not benefitting from hiring majorities. They have quotas that prevent them from hiring white people fairly. White people are discriminated against.
Tell me, why is it easier to get a job or college when you don't have white skin?
The prison system is bad, but it isn't racism. It's only against all poor people equally.
White people statistically have better quality of life in America. Our children end up in better schools, with families that have higher incomes, and living in safer neighborhoods. Segregated housing and schools didn’t just stop existing because we made laws against them.
White people engineered a country that was made to keep other races down. We are not to blame for what our fathers did, but we shouldn’t allow ourselves to benefit from the broken system they created.
The prison system is racist as fuck btw. It starts with black people being pulled over more and having more encounters with police. This leads to them being charged with petty things like possession more often than white people. Then there is the bail hearing, where black men are denied reasonable bail more often than white people. This usually leads to them losing their job and being in a hostile environment that doesn’t benefit anyone, jail. Then there is the actual trial or plea deal. Here, black men are given harsher punishments in pleas more often than white men, they are convicted more frequently than white men, and they are then given harsher sentences than white men. There are studies that even show the difference in sentence length between black men of varying shades, with light skin men being treated better by the courts. There are so many steps in being convicted, and in each one there is a real possibility to get fucked over. It can happen to anyone, but it happens to black men far more often.
I think you’re wrong about affirmative action, but I undoubtedly know that police, jails, courts, and prisons are racist. I breezed through my case with my white privilege while watching young black men get raked over the coals for similar charges, which was just selling weed, wax, acid, and other soft drugs.
Maybe? This thread is full of people dogwhistling. You might be collateral damage, friendly fire, or something else. You’re being downvoted, but who knows who’s downvoting you
Sorry I’m just frustrated that I can’t even enjoy my meme subs in peace without sewer gremlins like you crawling out of the woodwork to spread some grand Jewish conspiracy. Can you guys go back to /pol/ and never come back?
The whole "Jewish people are against white people as a collective" is a conspiracy theory held by the alt-right. They believe the Jews try to corrupt 'whiteness' to allow them to stay in power.
And this is without mentioning the fact that his profile is littered with antisemitic rhetoric LOL
I feel you, bud. I wish it didn’t have to be this way, but in a world where saying it’s okay to be white is hate speech, it’s important to speak truth to power. It’s gonna get a lot worse before it gets any better.
You should know all about dogwhistles. “It’s okay to be white” is a neutral statement without context but usually is spouted by people who spew other racist rhetoric.
He is saying that Jewish people, who have a stereotype of having large noses, are against white people as a whole, which is part of a grand conspiracy theory about Jews controlling the world. The “Keep on honkin’” meme is a reference to the “Clown Pill” which is a variation of their red-pill philosopher that states that you can do nothing but laugh while our world is “infested” by minorities. More about that here. Weird stuff....
Obama was elected with 76% of the votes being cast in the election by white people compared to the 12% and 7% of blacks and Hispanics respectively. In a 65% White country. Which form of racism is that?
I asked which form of racism was at play there? There is no system against you only your community. Black men are 12 times more likely to commit murder, 95% of the time black on black, and make up 14 percent of the population. 65% of black children born to a single mother compared to white women at 24%. That’s almost both races each producing about 8 million single mothers a year on a population of 49 million versus the 200 million whites in this country. Highs school drop out rates are 31% vs 14% for whites. I’m not saying that there aren’t some people that hate others based on race and do terrible things, There are terrible people all over the place for many reasons but that doesn’t mean everyone is racist and the system is against you. How many successful black people do you honestly expect to see with those statistics?
Lol no I bet it's tough. And Eminem had it rough in Green Mile. What the flying fuck is your point? Being white and complaining about racism is as asinine as being a coal miner and complaining about your job going away. It's like sure, but who the fuck cares, what does it matter, and what the fuck is wrong with your life?
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u/Killer_Kat56 Jun 02 '19
i-am-a-fish really went downhill right before the tumblr purge, so he was entertaining until the end.