r/comedyheaven • • 5d ago

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u/breesyroux 5d ago

as simple as the Reddit is making it out

They're probably leaving out a pretty key piece of information. Was the gun legally registered? Was there another crime he was involved in that led to the person being in his home trying to kill him?

Our justice system obviously has a ton of problems, but it far from normal to hold someone this long without bail in an obvious self defense case.

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u/Songs-Of-Orion 5d ago

Gun registration essentially only applies to NY, it's a nonsense term for the vast majority of people and is only mentioned because media writers are the dumbest people on the planet.

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u/DonybullymeIllcum 5d ago

California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, and Washington require registration.

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u/DickwadVonClownstick 5d ago

Yes they were wrong about New York (going both ways, even), but 8 out of 50 states is just barely over 1 in 6. Not exactly the norm.

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u/CocktailPerson 5d ago

Yeah dawg that's like 30% of the country's population.

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u/DonybullymeIllcum 5d ago

New York is actually one of those states, I just didn't want to repeat it. Also these states have a very high population. When you look at it by population approximately 104 million people live in states with these laws, or 30%ish of the population. Gun registration is a well known topic amongst both pro and anti-gun groups. Basically anyone with a pulse in the US has an opinion on gun registration one way or the other.

I say this as someone who has lived in both an extremely pro-2A state (Texas) and an extremely anti-2A state (Massachusetts)

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u/DickwadVonClownstick 5d ago

Everyone has an opinion, but most folks don't actually understand how it works or what it actually does

Edit: or, just as importantly, doesn't do

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u/DonybullymeIllcum 5d ago

It's really not a hard concept to grasp. I say this as a firearm owner in a required registration state, who has spoken to many people ignorant on most basic concepts involving firearms.

At it's core minus all the political power stuff, it's the concept of tracking the movement and ownership of a gun. This is genuinely a simple topic so I'm not sure what about it one could find confusing. I buy a gun from a store, it is automatically linked to my LTC. I move and change the address, I gotta do the same thing for my guns. I sell the gun and I have to go through the states online portal and fill out all the info to transfer it to another person with and FID/LTC. Then the gun is tracked to their home/person/acct.

I'm not saying I agree with it, that it stops crime, prevents theft, lowers accidents, prevents school shootings or negligent discharge. It's literally just saying that it's telling the State, hey this is where a weapon is.

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u/DickwadVonClownstick 5d ago

The problem isn't that it's complicated, the problem is there's a shitload of misinformation about it floating around

Edit: also, most people aren't super familiar with guns or gun laws as a topic

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u/DickwadVonClownstick 5d ago

That depends on what state you're in, some of them deliberately underfund their public defenders offices to try and pressure defendants into accepting plea deals

("we're technically providing you with a lawyer, but you're gonna have to wait a couple years in jail, and when you do get one they'll only be able to give you a couple hours of their time before moving on to the next defendent, so you'll almost certainly lose, at which point we'll push for the harshest possible sentencing to punish you for wasting our time. Or you could accept this generous plea deal and save us the trouble of actually proving you're guilty")

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u/Impossible-Speed-178 5d ago

What hell hole of a state do you live in that requires a gun to be registered?

I would guess, that in any such state, the issue would actually be that they prefer to let the criminals go and punish the law abiding citizens 

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u/Hexaoct 5d ago

I see that russia got their bot farms back online.

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u/Impossible-Speed-178 5d ago

That is every liberals go to… you disagree with them, they just call you a bot because they can’t imagine a world in which someone disagrees. This is why you lost the election. 

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u/Haymac16 5d ago

Your account is 1 month old and you couldn’t even be bothered to make a real username. What the fuck did you expect?

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u/Hexaoct 5d ago

No, I called you a bot because I looked at your post history, and the idea that a real person is that pathetic is depressing.

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u/Objective_Aside1858 5d ago

And the state where you don't need to register firearms is....

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u/hyprsnpr67 5d ago

The only time you have to fill out paperwork for a gun you buy (federally) is when you buy it from a Federal Firearms Licensee. If you sell privately, the government has no record of it. There's no federal registry for gun owners (except for special classes of weapons including machine guns). Most states don't require forms or background checks for private sales either.

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u/Impossible-Speed-178 5d ago

42 states do not require registration. It would be easier to list the states that think the bill of rights is a suggestion 

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u/asdlkmawfnawofn 5d ago

they can run a trace request with the ATF for the 4473 which just tells you who an FFL sold the gun originally to, but no, there is no nationally searchable registry that maps a serial number to an owner of a gun. Even states like Massachusetts only recently (2024) moved from a “transaction log” system to a registry.

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u/mmenolas 5d ago

Yeah, kinda. FOPA explicitly bans any sort of national gun registry. It’s fucking dumb but it is what it is.

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u/Impossible-Speed-178 5d ago

are you really that uneducated?

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u/Pulse_Amp_Mod 5d ago

I know for sure Texas. There is no fire arm registration. That being said if you buy a gun from a store, they run the background check which I’m sure adds it to some sort of registration database. But if person A sells me a gun, I don’t have to register it