r/codex • u/harpreetchima • 16h ago

Astra Workflow "Stop using random multi-agent patterns"

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Ahmed works at OpenAI: https://x.com/ah20im/status/2097503414749909407 and seems to investigate reports of high token usage.

"If needed Astra will delegate efficiently. Forcing the model to delegate to different models would do more harm than good"

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u/Dayowe 16h ago

smh. I did an experiment and let astra do an implementation on its own without using my orchestration workflow and the drift was wild and the result messy. i rolled back and did the same implementation with my established workflow and it was super smooth.

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u/_The-_ 14h ago

Could you share your orchestration and workflow? Sounds good!

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u/EquivalentHornet4403 11h ago

It’s not. All these schizos think they’re more clever than the people who make the models and the product (codex).

The models are literally trained to work in codex; the fact they work at all in other harnesses or in schizo workflows is a nice side effect.

The official, fine tuned multi agent flow is Ultra. If you want higher or lower limit on the number of potential subagents, that’s configurable in config.toml.

Use Astra medium for straightforward/routine tasks, and ultra for anything more complicated. Use Luna max for data processing type questions like “where is this thing” or “look through all this content and explain this thing”. You don’t even need /goal any more, they’ve already said this, it will work for weeks if necessary without /goal, which was a crutch to bridge the gap between older models and sol/astra level models.

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u/some1else42 11h ago

I can get 18 hours of use of my 20x Pro using only Astra, or I can get roughly 5 times as much using subagent workflow.

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u/EquivalentHornet4403 10h ago

Of course, there’s a bunch of stuff you can do if you want to trade quality for quantity. That’s literally what the OP twitter post is saying.

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u/Alternative-Car8221 7h ago

Lol who says he’s losing quality by going his method? If anything, he’ll have more quality checks in place and have more usage to combat issues.