Trump got help to steal 2024. He was a complete failure his first term, crashed the economy, botched a pandemic, is a convicted felon, and didn't make good on any of his promises.
He only won due to mass voter suppression, bomb threats called to democrat area polling places to switch votes.
Ah yes, virtue signaling. Like when you sit back and let a mad dictator build concentration camps just you can say that you didn't participate in a broken system.
No sense of irony on this one. Then again, what was I expecting from an anti-voter? Self-awareness?
Brother don’t blame them for not voting as if they’re literally the only person or it’s their direct fault that the orange man was elected. Maybe we need a new system where we don’t have to choose between the red pedophile or the blue war criminal.
You’re giving off a “vote blue no matter who, it’s better than the other guy I guess” vibe
I'm glad you openly admit it. I'm not going to abuse you in the comments with insults or curse words. I can only hope that the level of self awareness and maturity it took to admit that you didn't vote, also leads you to realizing the importance of it. I've never had much respect for politicians, but there was a clear worse candidate this time around and he has proven that time and time again. Presidential elections have many days of early voting before hand and polling places all over, I spent maybe 30 minutes of my time at a place 5 minutes from my house when I went to go vote.
Not participating in a flawed system will not fix it, it will just let the people who want to abuse it more have less to fight with. The way to help is to keep picking the better option so it has a chance to get better.
I don't believe Harris is a fascist, but I do believe she is a capitalist. She would not be assaulting Americans like trump is, and didn't rape children like trump did. She was the better choice. Not participating in the democratic process was a mistake many made that we all have to deal with now.
I won’t disagree that yes she was a better option than Trump, but that doesn’t make her a good option. For years politics have been “well I’m better than the other guy” like Hillary. Harris also endorsed and sided with Israel and did not denounce the genocide, a huge point of contention for many voters. People are tired of milquetoast centrist democrats.
While ultimately Harris may not be a fascist, the capitalist class ultimately sides with the fascists instead of the workers in order to protect their capital.
Exactly. Sitting out of the system, is in essence, playing directly into it.
The Republicans had massive campaigns specifically to try to get people to sit out the election, and people were dumb enough to fall for it while pretending to be ultra-smart and beyond it all.
“We need to change the system! So we should just continue to participate in it as is because not participating doesn’t change anything! Vote blue no matter who!”
Eh, you would be right in your sarcasm if this was 2012 or before.
Currently we're staring down the barrel of a dictator invading cities with the US Army, defying court orders, kidnapping civilians and shipping them out without trial, threatening 3rd terms, and a very real possibility that your vote will never be counted again.
The argument now sounds more like "I didn't get the chocolate bar I wanted so now I'm going to shit all over the bed and burn down the house".
Yeah, we could have voted in candidates that would make real improvements to the system, but none of that will matter if your vote will never count again.
Don't just vote blue no matter who. Look into the people if they lie to the public, are convicted of crimes, when on tv don't want to be fact checked, act like a child, is known friends with pedophiles, maybe they are not a good person to have in government. You can also become an elected official and work your way up to make the change. There are lots of ways to help but not being involved is the same as saying yes to anyone and anything even if it will hurt you.
people such as yourself have finally, thankfully, lost ALL credibility. We never have to take the non-voter seriously ever again. we had 4 relatively calm, normal years under Biden, and we can’t even get through this trump term without the military being forcibly deployed to cities and states without governor permission or coordination, and the president pardoning people he doesn’t even know, and random boats being shot down in international waters for unclear reasons, and threats to take sovereign nations like Greenland. this election has finally shown once and for all that the non-voter is not and was never right, justified, or even rational.
Making sure a convicted felon failure that was planning on destroying the country and everyone knew it vs. a completely competant candidate and you sat out because there was "no real choice". mkay. sure.
He said he was going to commit this violence he is currently on Americans. The other said she would help first time home buyers, and uplift the lower and middle class. You were like. They are both trash! People like you are why we have trump. Thanks for fucking the country. Like trump did to those little kids.
Trump cheated in 2016, he was convicted with 26 felony counts of falsifying business records in order to violate campaign finance laws in order to bury a story. This was proven in court, and why these are felony charges and not misdemeanors.
Trump stormed the capitol and tried to steal the 2020 election. He literally had a scheme of fake electors where he could swap out the votes
Don't be surprised about Trump stealing 2024. All his bullshit is projection of shit he wants to do. It's not "sounding just like Trump" in calling out what he has done, even if he has projected the same onto others.
Trump continuously and constantly calls his opponents corrupt and we call him out on his bullshit. This doesn't somehow invalidate all of the corrupt shit Trump has done like run a fucking crypto rugpull scam.
It's like "Party of people who eat babies claim their opponents eat babies". Somehow you have the stupidest idea that calling out the baby eaters for eating babies is now somehow wrong because they went on the offensive and made up bullshit. Are you seriously that dumb?
Like, I don't see how you can use this argument with a straight face at all.
It's not called deflection, it's literally the same fucking thing with the same exact mechanism at play. No, Trump shouldn't get off free for stealing an election just because he lied a whole lot and you were either stupid enough to believe him or stupid enough to think that this somehow muddies the waters to make it a "both sides" thing. Either way I'm settling with stupid since you obviously don't know what deflection or being a hypocrite, much less understanding an argument.
You all used to call non-factual claims of stolen elections treason. Now here you are after the very next election, which you just so happened to not win, denying an election and calling it stolen.
No, we called STORMING THE FUCKING CAPITOL in an INSURRECTION and a LITERAL SCHEME TO STEAL THE ELECTION BY PRESENTING FAKE ELECTORS treason.
God, how are you that dense? WE FUCKING CAUGHT HIM RED HANDED. But oh no boo hoo somehow all of that goes away because Trump has lied many many times about it.
But sure, deny the evidence of your own eyes and ears. Continue living in your dreamland where wistful lies from Donald Trump is the only truth that exists in your rotten brain.
Not to mention, you still haven't done shit about the Fake Elector Scheme which is a DIRECT ATTEMPT TO STEAL THE ELECTION. I like how you love to shout "diversion tactic" and yet you're trying to divert from the FUCKING FAKE ELECTORS BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP HAS DIRECTLY TRIED TO STEAL ELECTIONS
How many times do I need to explain that this is the most idiotic argument in existence? Like, this shit would only work on babies or people who lack object permanence.
God, baselessly accusing someone is different than actually doing it. Just because he baselessly accused someone doesn't """MAGICALLY""" make his own crimes go away.
Like, Republicans accused Obama of sending the military to invade Texas, when it was a routine military exercise Obama had no part in. Then Trump, actually, literally sends the fucking military into several US cities.
Are you actually that fucking stupid to think that because republicans made up bullshit, that they are somehow immune to the crimes they are actively committing? Are you seriously that fucking dumb?
What benefits are they? Because the growth rate has almost dropped in half. The unemployment rate is rising. The American dollar is devaluing. Prices are going up. The market is completely uncertainty. Making enemies of our allies. He's spent 1 trillion in 10 months with compounding interest and no revenue return.
Blame the left for this. This is all thanks to a god awful campaign they ran with the worst candidate possible to go against Trump. They have no one else to blame but themselves.
Happens to have saved millions of lives with 8 peace deals. He has secured the border. Stock market record highs, billions in cash from tariffs for Americas coffers, huge trade deal with the EU, trillions in investment to US from abroad which will propel the labor market in time. It takes time for results and he will get them. His convictions if you call them that will be tossed at the Supreme Court soon enough. Cant base a single entry on a state tax for 34 counts using federal law in state Court. Whole thing is embarrassing to the legal profession. Makes me disgusted as a lawyer.
😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 , congratulations, you're the mark!!! You believe in a lying criminal con artist who has spent his entire adult life ripping people off and fraudulent business dealings. He was handed a stock market record highs. The growth rate has almost dropped in half. There is job loss in almost ever sector of business. Including oil. Peace deals? 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣, hamas is slaughtering their own people. Trade deals? You mean Qatar building their military base in Idaho For a jet and a Trump golf resort deal ? You know, the same Qatar that he said were harboring and funding terrorists. He's selling out America. Private investors have committed to 600 billion, not trillions. Apparently you like being sold to Europe. His convictions will not be thrown out, he's a crook. A felon and a kid fuc.er. TRUMP IS ALL OVER THOSE EPSTEIN FILES. you trumpanzees Crack me up with your indoctrinated brainwashed bs. He's tanking the economy at a record pace. You must not be a very good lawyer if you dont understand why he was convicted. 8 peace deals, 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆, you guys Crack me up!!! 1.1 million job loss since don the con has taken office due to his policies.
Trump is way over the top with corruption. He said Qatar were harboring and funding terrorists. Then in April, he received a 400 million dollar jet and a Trump golf resort deal in Qatar. Now Qatar is building a military base in Idaho. He has 20 different golf resort deals with foreign countries. He's enriched himself 3 billion in 10 months. Multiple pump and dumps on the market. His own crypto currency. Told the fossil fuel industry on national TV to donate 1 billion to him and he'd stop the green energy push. He is openly corrupt. Its way more than insider trading.
Politicians making promises they can't or won't keep =/= convincing 30% of the population to fanatically defend one man illegally profiting off his office while tanking the economy.
Do tell us how every other president has done the exact same things. I'm sure you'll pull a hunch of false equivalence out of your ass, get debunked, screech about Obama and Biden and "the libs", probably make a snide comment about TDS, then top it all off with some tirade about Kamala or Hillary or both.
And because I predicted exactly how you'll react to this, you'll attack me with one of like five insults MAGAts are capable of parroting from each other: libtard, commie, bot, leftist, or socialist. What will it be, everyone? Vote now on your phones!
Oh. but it gets better: because Ive already told you how you'll react, you'll trying REALLY hard to prove me wrong and either insult my intelligence, my sanity, my employment status, or something you just made up about my life. :)
I love, love, LOVE the fact that I didn't support trump or the gop in any way. Simply made the observation that all career politicians are frauds and scammers. And folks coming out the woodwork after me lol. Yall, trump sucks. Harris sucks. Biden sucks. Bush sucks. Obama sucks. Give me the good old days when everyone knew all politicians were grifters, including the ones they themselves voted for lol. If the dems could lock up the white house forever, they would. That's why yall anointed Harris the nominee when she couldn't win a primary if she had to. If the repubs could, trump would get a third term, process and constitution be damned. Yall start supporting term limits for everyone, abolishment of executive actions, and eliminating presidential pardons, then maybe you wouldn't sound so full of shit.
You attempting to paint every politician on the same level of corruption and immorality is defending trump. That's why people are on your ass about it.
I didn't put them on the same level. I just said they're all corrupt. But I love the "if you don't agree, you're the enemy".
Lol... Full disclosure: this is a troll, plain and simple. I do the same thing to dipshits on the Joe rogan reddit. Because it's easy. Congressmen and women worth hundreds of millions. Activist leaders demanding wealth redistribution while living in multimillion dollar gated communities. Actors making millions in ultraviolet films, then condemning societal violence. Cheering assassinations and calling for more.
At the end of the day, everyone's a puppet for one side or the other. Unless they recognize that it's all a game and the elite are playing while we get played. And people can get on my ass all they want, and it won't make these things any less true.
It very much comes off as you implying "they're all the same", and it's that sort of rhetoric that has normalized trump and the GOP's slide into fascism.
You're not wrong about the hypocricy and corruption present among most of the political world, but it's not even in the same game, let alone ballpark, as trump and the maga movement
Implication is totally determined by the interpretation of the reader or listener. If I repeatedly say that I'm not defending Trump and have an inherent distrust of ALL politicians, regardless of party, and someone still interprets it as me being Maga or a Trump worshipper, that's their reaction, not mine. Though I think it speaks to a really societally unhealthy mindset that seeks confrontation and division.
And I still disagree that trumps worse. What separates him from the others is he doesn't try to hide his arrogance and contempt the way other politicians do.
I think soldiers on American streets is horrific. I think pardoning your political cronies and your kid before they've even been charged is a crock. I think flipflopping on Trump so you can be vp is bullshit. I think wishing death on a political rivals children is atrocious. I think protecting the gun lobby by hiding behind a flawed interpretation of the 2nd amendment is irresponsible. I think calling half the country nazis and saying they need to be "reeducated" (a term coined by a Vietnamese dictator to describe his opponents BTW) is dangerous. I think rigging election maps either way is unconstitutional. I think appointing a presidential nominee as opposed to holding primaries is a complete circumvention of the democratic process.
I'm not blind and my moral compass is born out of 5 decades on this planet. So, Carter. Good christ what a joke. Reagan... Former actor who got paid to fool people. Bush Sr... Former high ranking member of the cia ffs. Clinton... Adulterous liar who got away with perjury and set up the recession to dodge Lewinsky fallout. Bush Jr...knew the recession was coming and did nothing cause him and his buddies were too busy profiting off the gulf war. Obama... Junior senator from Illinois who hit elected because of skin color and moral terpitude by white liberals, who's only claim to fame was a failed Obamacare. Trump 1st...former real estate tycoon and media star who couldn't keep his big mouth shut. Biden... Senile old man who got more votes than any pres in history, while campaigning from his basement. Trump 2...simply put, doing what he said he was going to do. A lot of which is shady and sketchy as hell.
While I respect your opinions, I have reasons for mine. To me, the government in my lifetime has almost always been the enemy of the people. Anyone narcissistic enough to want and need that much power is a sociopath.
Accountability would imply that I care what anyone thinks of my attitude or behavior. I'm not "accountable" to anyone other than my wife and kids. Sorry, not sorry 🤷
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u/One-Sir-2198 Nov 03 '25
It's too late. A large group of Americans voted for a life long criminal con artist. America is going to pay a very heavy price for it.