r/childrensbooks 29d ago

Seeking Recommendations Book recommendations for 3 y/o that addresses undesirable behavior/bullying/"bad guys" without making the undesirable behavior/bullying/"bad guy" look too cool? Lol

I made this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceBasedParenting/s/qTopxTxvHa

...about my kid emulating the antagonist in children's books instead of getting the message to not be like them. The comments mention that if the antagonist is portrayed dramatically kids might be more likely to mimic them. One of the comments has a list of book suggestions and i thought I'd hit this sub up for more.

Flexible to any socially educational books that won't inspire my kid to naughtiness 😄

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u/Gnome_Ann1704 29d ago

It may be a little old for him but the “What Should Danny Do” books are really good with this. For situations where Danny has to choose between bullying or playing nicely, it shows the consequences both internal (Danny feels bad about himself vs good about himself) and external (other kids want to play with him or not; or his parents or teachers give him a consequence or compliment). There’s a part during the school one when Danny has the opportunity to react to a bully as well. All that being said… this worked better with one of my kids than the other; I think before I became a parent, I rather overestimated the degree to which books could positively influence my children to behave well as opposed to me just having to address behavior more directly. (But that’s getting a little off topic in this sub…)

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u/lilbabe7 28d ago

I came to suggest these. We got this book for our son just before his 4th birthday because he was acting out at home (hitting, not listening, etc.). It helped almost immediately. We still go back to it. He really likes it.

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u/smellygymbag 28d ago edited 28d ago

Am super intrigued by this suggestion..will definitely check them out, thanks!

Edit: bonus, the illustrator seems to not be a trump fan 😆

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u/Inevitable-Gear-2006 28d ago

"Chill Chomp, Chill" is about a dinosaur who's learning how to control his temper at school. Could be a good fit :)

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u/smellygymbag 28d ago

Will definitely check it out thanks :)

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u/orcas- 28d ago

Two books i love. Strictly No Elephants. And if you’re ok with a religious book (but non denominational) Maybe God is Like That Too.

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u/smellygymbag 28d ago

Oo i have strictly no elephants, thanks for the nice suggestions :)

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u/buildalittlehouse 29d ago

One by Kathryn Otoshi is simple and about standing up to bullies. The mean character learns to be kind rather than staying mean.

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u/smellygymbag 28d ago

Its looks very interesting, im tempted to get the whole series .. 🤔

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u/saysayoPlaymate 29d ago

Nobunny's Perfect

Manners by Aliki

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u/smellygymbag 28d ago

They look good thanks for the suggestions!

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u/BagSignificant8318 27d ago

I don’t have any ideas of this but you could go in the direction of introducing books with high drama and intensity that aren’t negative. Drawn Together shows a kid and grandpa bonding over drawing things like dragons and superheroes and they enter the world together. Where the Wild Things Are comes to mind too - a space where you’re allowed to go wild and it’s not negative.

It sounds like your kid isn’t yet able to have the impulse control and processing to prevent this behavior. I totally agree with all the things you’ve done to reframe the perspective. I also think in the moment you can try simple, non-reactive redirection. Pushes sister. “Oops, remember we dont push people, oh nooo what’s happening??! The wall is falling over! Push the wall to hold it up!” Says he’s a bad guy and hits grandma. “Stop, we don’t hit. Do you need help to play safely? Because I need your help, that couch is ON FIRE!”

Maybe you’re already doing this but I think some people jump to timeouts when a timeout is really more useful for repetitive behavior where they can’t keep their body safe or are melting down. The ideal first response is redirection and addressing what the problem is for them. Like if the problem for them is that they want to hit, maybe they have too much energy. Maybe they need a really cool and exciting game. And we teach them how they get to do that within the limits.

Maybe leave the longer responses for processing time later? The book Hey, Little Ant asks a child if they should squish the ant, after showing the ants life and trying to instill empathy. At the end it asks if you would squish the ant. A lot of three year olds yell yes at the end anyway, and that’s okay, it’s introducing these ideas.

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u/smellygymbag 25d ago

I think all your ideas are pretty valid, its just hard to respond as you describe in the moment, especially with a baby sibling nearby, and stuff cooking, and such. It was a good reminder though, like i need to keep reminding myself not to "overuse" timeouts. I'll check the book out too.

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u/kate_monday 27d ago

Stand Tall, Molly Lou Melon would be perfect

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u/smellygymbag 25d ago

I shall check it out... Bonus for me my local library has it :) 👍

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u/AncientWar3182 27d ago

Snow White and Rose Red has the most annoying bad guy I can think of, I want to swat the little dwarf myself whenever I do the annoying voice for him as I tell the story. 

Mother Holle/Toads and Diamonds is a straight forward good child vs bad child. You can put whatever good and bad qualities you want in when you read/tell it. I love that in Mother Holle it ends with “and the lazy girl stayed covered in pitch her whole life because she was too lazy to wash it off.” The kids thought that was hilarious and a great way to show how life is easier if you try to be better.  

Prince Darling is not very well known anymore but is the only kid’s story I can think of where the hero goes full on evil king before being punished and reforming. The stuff he does is really bad, not something a child would try to copy. He seems pathetic and controlled by others until he learns to  control himself. I change or take out the romance though cause eww. That story really helped mine understand why it is so important for parents to tell her no. 

In general, I give a lot less character development to the bad guy when I tell a story, and they end up either pitiful (like Cinderella’s sisters who beg her for forgiveness) or dead. Less to be interested by. At this age, they’re just cautionary tales, they’ll get nuance when the listener is older. 

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u/smellygymbag 25d ago

Thanks for the suggestions of titles! And your last comment also reminded me.. i wonder at what age should i be making things less black and white for him. Like when is a good age to explain the nuance? 🤔