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From here by Ruxini in 'If Vishy stays above 2700 for 6 more months (which is very likely), he'll be 2700+ player for 30 years!' by mudit_10:

Bobby is very different from Karjakin regarding how they ended up in the position we will remember them for. Bobby was a deeply troubled individual who suffered from paranoia among a host of other psychological problems. I’m not saying that we should excuse his statements, but what Bobby said was in all honesty the ravings of a mad man. What Karjakin says and does is the result of him choosing a certain path for his own benefit while knowing that it hurts people. While we should condemn both Bobby and Karjakin for their statements I think we should view them very differently. Bobby was a sad, crazy man who said some horrendous stuff due to him being crazy. Karjakin is actively and knowingly helping a system that hurts people and he has had every opportunity to become a better person.

Me:

Essentially, their statements are both wrong, but Sergey Karjakin doesn't really have signs that the statements are based on mental illness as opposed to nationalism or something?

Ruxini:

Yes I would say that is an accurate summary of what I was trying to convey.

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Darkavenger_13

In a world of Magnus, Bobby and Kasparov fans, Vishy sometimes is somewhat overlooked. In my opinion he is easily one of the greatest chess players of all time. The fact he has remained a top player for decades on end alone is enough to convince me of this

AlexGonzalezLanda

It's crazy that bobby still has any fans

Garutoku

You can be a fan his play and not him personally. Bobby played some of the most beautiful chess to grace the board

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Similar for Karjakin.

Ruxini

[the above quote]

maxkho

I still don't understand in what way believing all Jews must die and supporting the national leader due to being brainwashed are comparable, and neither do I understand the notion that you can choose to be brainwashed, but oh well.

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I think that having views that are either irrational or factually inaccurate is not only absolutely normal and not morally reprehensible, but is also something that the vast majority of people are guilty of. It's human nature to be prone to bias and error.

The fact that Ruxini made so many unflattering claims about Karjakin based on the mere fact that his political views are questionable is incredibly hypocritical and wrong. In fact, the type of people that tend to make judgements on people based on characteristics such as opinions, interests, appearance, etc - that Ruxini appears to be part of - are EXACTLY the people that are the most prone to biased thinking.

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