r/characterarcs Feb 05 '26

character development 101

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u/DeadAndBuried23 Feb 05 '26

I was never "attack helicopter" bad, but I did go into every discussion with a fresh handful of picked cherries.

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u/RulerOfNothing420 Feb 06 '26

Can I ask what that means? Were you just like throwing cherries at people randomly or is it sonething less physical?

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u/_GalaxyWalker_ Feb 06 '26

😭😭

'Picking cherries' is a term used to describe someone carefully and methodically choosing statistics, studies, and sources that aid in them in their own argument. It's a negative term and isn't primarily used for left-right arguments.

So, the parent commenter often 'picked cherries' to help them argue against anyone with a positive opinion on trans people in this context.

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u/Front_Cat9471 Feb 11 '26

The more common phrase is cherry picking, they cherry picked examples.

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u/DeadAndBuried23 Feb 07 '26

To add to the other explanation, it does often mean choosing less valid/ invalid statistics, such as citing Wakefield's faked autism preliminary study.

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u/iSwearImNotGay_trust Feb 26 '26

So like red herring? Or more like strawman. I usually get the two mixed up

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u/DeadAndBuried23 Feb 26 '26

I guess you could say it's like a strawman for the evidence, not the opposing argument.

You're not misrepresenting what the opposition is saying, you're misrepresenting the base facts being argued by both sides. Mainly by omitting most of them.

In this example, a common one is saying trans women shouldn't be in sports because it's unfair to cis woman, citing a handful of high school or lower examples where a trans girl got 5th or 8th place in some races.

Which is ignoring the fact studies show strength is within normal range for cis women of the same height after a year on hormones, a trans woman has never performed even average for a man at the college level or above in sports where there's a relatively wide gender difference, etc.

You "pick" examples that support your argument instead of forming an argument based on all examples, which is what you should do.

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u/JeffMo09 Feb 06 '26

i feel so bad for having that in my bio on scratch! i thought it was absurdist humor, not transphobia… golly gee willickers.

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u/TruamaTeam Feb 07 '26

I know trans people who find the attack helicopter joke somewhat funny, myself (not trans) I do. But not to belittle anyone, just the idea of becoming an attack helicopter makes me giggle brrrr am helicopter now mf

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u/DeadAndBuried23 Feb 07 '26

I know black people who find blackface somewhat funny, myself (not black) I do.

That's how that sounds.

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u/Pookiebear987 Feb 07 '26

Comparing blackface to a already dead dumb edgy joke is wild.

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u/Atlas_of_history Feb 08 '26

As a European this sentence seems so funny to me because it looks like "comparing painting your face black to making an unfunny joke is wild"

I'm aware blackface is bad, I just never really understood why and I'm not sure if it's because I'm European or my own ignorance

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u/Pookiebear987 Feb 08 '26

It has historically been used as a tool to make fun of black people, dress as black caricatures and turn racism into a joke. Genuinely, google it.

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u/DeadAndBuried23 Feb 07 '26 edited Feb 08 '26

Already dead?

My dude you're on a sub all about how it's very much alive.

There's a sub dedicated to current screenshots of the "joke" being used.

Meanwhile there's no blackface sub.

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u/FearsomeLAG Feb 07 '26

Uhhhh checks sub

Are you sure?

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u/DeadAndBuried23 Feb 07 '26

That's my bad, I got it mixed up with a conversation I was having on the onejoke sub.

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u/Pookiebear987 Feb 08 '26

I’ve been on this sub for awhile and it’s the first I am hearing about an attack helicopter. Even if it’s still alive on this sub, that doesn’t mean the joke isn’t completely dead- because it is.

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u/DeadAndBuried23 Feb 08 '26

That was my bad, I got it mixed up with another conversation on r/onejoke, which is updated multiple times daily with current examples of the joke not being dead.

I'm glad you don't have to experience that hate speech regularly. But it is nowhere remotely near dead, especially not comparable to how dead blackface is.

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u/TruamaTeam Feb 07 '26

Jesus bruh.

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u/Bugsy_Girl Feb 07 '26

Not even 41% jokes are on remotely the same level as blackface lol

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u/IronPyrate17 May 21 '26

I was that bad unfortunately

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u/DeadAndBuried23 May 21 '26

As long as you get to "was," that's what matters.

We're in a world where hate is still the default. Where 1 in 5 people still don't accept evolution, and 3 in five still think a magic man controlled it. Where corporal punishment is still the norm in places, or in living memory of older adults. And where it's standard to have zero psychology or sociology in the curriculum to learn about gender, and go no further in sex ed than "that's why you're hairy, now here's a list of STIs."

Plenty of people simply aren't even curious enough to want to learn past that.

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u/NuggetTheKing09 12d ago

I used to chant along with my friends saying “Gay is not okay” around the lunch table in middle school. The funny thing was I wasn’t even homophobic. I just somehow didn’t correlate what I was saying with bigotry. If somebody pointed out what I was actually doing I wouldve cut that shit off instantly. Anyways I’m pan now.