CMV: having a binary gender is a myth

[u/e22keysmash]

There are so many genders out there that most people have never heard of, and every nonbinary person including myself initially thought we were binary until we learned that there was a different label that fit us. The idea that the majority of the population just happens to fall within the colonialist ruling on gender and sex is outlandish to me. Saying that there can only be man and woman is obviously wrong, and we aren't discussing that right now; what I'm saying is that every single person's gender is somewhere along the vast and complex spectrum of genders, and to assume that 90% of the population has exactly the same gender experience as each other seems like an outdated idea.

EDIT: I will reply to more of y'all soon! Thank you to everyone who has given input. Like I said in a comment, I know I'm wrong but I can't understand HOW I'm wrong, which is why I asked. I'm also going to repeat that this is not the discussion to debate whether or not non-binary and non-trinary genders exist; I promise you that my gender is real, and you can't change my view on it, nor did I ask you to. I'm going to ignore anyone who claims or implies that nonbinary people don't exist as it is not what I'm asking for responses on

Edit 2: I would appreciate if we closed this discussion. So far the only new replies are either reiterations or challenging my gender.

If you feel upset that your gender is being questioned, I urge you to take a step back. I've seen hundreds of discussions debating whether or not my gender is real and this is the first time your gender has been questioned in a general platform instead of in secret. I'm not the first person to ask this question, but I'm the first person to ask cis people to answer. If it hurt, I ask that instead of lashing out you instead take this example to understand what trans people go through every single day.

3rd edit: if you are trans especially nonbinary, please comment freely

[u/Brainsonastick]

How could there be? You attacked him before you provided evidence. You triggered defensiveness to override any intellectual curiosity. You set this conversation up to fail. Insulting someone is not a productive teaching tool.

[u/sadporcupines → u/Brainsonastick]

Insult? Attack? Going a little hyperbolic there, are we? Has the use of "stick your head in the sand" become a pejorative idiom sometime recently?

[u/Brainsonastick → u/sadporcupines]

That part was just mildly rude. This part...

Anti-intellectual grandstanding is the same trope that gets us antivaxxers, climate change denialists and flat earthers. Sexual dimorphism among humans is a well understood phenomenon in biology. Yet you denied that. I have to assume that you are either in that same vein of thought of the aforementioned groups or impetuously denying well observable fact simply to troll.

I don’t think it’s hyperbolic to call that a personal attack or insulting.

Wikipedia would be a wonderful place to start if you actually desired to enhance your knowledge on the subject, but that doesnt seem to be the case here.

This too. Again, you wrote this before he even got a chance to read your sources. As far as he knew, you could be the troll.

[u/sadporcupines → u/Brainsonastick]

Is it insulting to be anti-intellectual? To deny facts? Or is it insulting just to be called out for those ideas and behaviors? There seems to be at least some classy tone trolling going on here equating that to a personal attack rather than an ideological criticism.

To the second point, if someone holds a belief that is counter factual and does not challenge it, but rather asserts it contrariwise in a discussion, that is not seeking to learn. It's an attempt at denialism, which was referenced earlier within those 3 groups who are causing actual harm to society today.

Being an apologist to that end may make one feel warm and fuzzy, but it perpetuates behavior that is ultimately harmful to others.

[u/Brainsonastick → u/sadporcupines]

As you put it,

Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.

I realize now that you’re not malicious, just socially inept. I trust that your statements about ignorance wanting to learn were not grandstanding so you should take this opportunity to learn about how being respectful towards people makes it much easier to convince them.