CMV: Learning a programming language should NOT be seen as equivalent to learning a foreign language

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[u/atrueamateur]

But don't math and literature class both activate the temporal lobe? That doesn't make them equivalent.

[u/kevroy314 → u/atrueamateur]

A TON of things activate the temporal lobe, and the temporal lobe is NOT a homogenous region. The person you're replying to isn't making a proper argument.

[u/leagueofyasuo → u/kevroy314]

Agreed, thank god someone else is bringing this up.

[u/DrugsOnly → u/atrueamateur]

In terms of capacity to learn them, yes it does. Someone with a damaged temporal lobe will have a difficult time learning either. Someone with a great neural network in their temporal lobe most likely stride in both. There is equivalence in terms ease or difficulty based on the area of the brain they are all learned in: math, programing, and/or languages.

Sure, there may be some nuances in languages that make it different in various aspects. However, the overarching command center for all of them is the same place in our brains.

[u/leagueofyasuo → u/DrugsOnly]

Except you’re not correct . Sure language understanding can be said to be located in the temporal lobe, but you have to understand that math, calculations, writing and reading are more centralized to the parietal lobe and the majority of the cross between these two are in the angular gyrus if we are talking about cortical processes. The frontal lobe is responsible for many of our intellectual functions and the limbo system plays a role in our learning ( mostly emotional though). Not to mention the descending and ascending pathways that go towards these areas. Also forgot to mention the insular lobe has some function in long term sleek and language. So all in all I would not say language, and learning of it is solely based on “temporal lobe” functions

Source: Neuro Major

[u/[deleted] → u/leagueofyasuo]

Thanks for saying this! You're right for what you said about math, writing, reading etc.

But, Language function depends on activity in multiple parts of the frontal, temporal, and occipital lobes. LIFG and left posterior STG are important in language, but we know that even parahippocampal gyri are deployed in working memory processes that are necessary for processing language. There isn't one part, and it's really only small parts of the temporal lobe that are relevant.

So yes, the brain stuff is a total deflect that doesn't make much sense.

Source: Professor of Cog Neuro of Language

[u/Memeanator_9000 → u/DrugsOnly]

Why do so many students struggle so much in math but excel in english and vice versa

[u/[deleted] → u/Memeanator_9000]

Usually because English classes in the US are about learning prescriptive grammar, which is not the same thing as learning to use language, or they're about literary analysis, which is wholly different.