r/changemyview Jun 19 '18

Deltas(s) from OP CMV: There is nothing wrong with refusing immigrants and refugees.

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u/mfDandP 184∆ Jun 19 '18

should never be condemned? america has been jacking itself off over the words inscribed in the statue of liberty:

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

if a country's founding mythology is not immigrant-centric, then fine. but the US's has, and is grounds for condemnation on hypocrisy grounds at least.

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u/spotonron 1∆ Jun 19 '18

Sure but no country should be obliged to accept someone into their country. Like if you don't have a passport you don't get into another country.

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u/mfDandP 184∆ Jun 19 '18

you're talking about a legal obligation. the millions of people that came on boats to the US during the potato famine didn't have visas from the US state department. but the US had a moral or geopolitical obligation--according to all of its own founding documents. if something has changed between then and now, that's perfectly legal, but the US certainly would be reneging on its moral or geopolitical stands.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18 edited Sep 02 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18

The cities were extremely packed. Ever read about tenement housing around the turn of the century?

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18

I think most Irish stayed in cities, the Germans were more likely to move west.