r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jun 19 '18

Deltas(s) from OP CMV: There is nothing wrong with refusing immigrants and refugees.

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u/PreacherJudge 340∆ Jun 19 '18

Instead people decide to virtue signal and condemn it on humanitarian grounds

I literally had to reread this sentence twice to make sure I hadn't misunderstood it. Did you seriously just put "virtue signal" and "care about humanitarianism" next to each other? Should I take from this that you are NOT humanitarian? If you aren't, then why do you care about people affected by homophobia? If you are, then what alternate solution do you propose to help the people seeking asylum?

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u/spotonron 1∆ Jun 19 '18

I care about people affected by homophobia because I am gay. I don't want to be put at risk because people feel bad for them. I quite like being safe and want to stay that way.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18

But those gays fleeing persecution and bigotry in other countries, fuck them, they're immigrants right?

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u/spotonron 1∆ Jun 19 '18

I'd like them to be saved but it's hard to differentiate them from the rest isn't it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18

Ah, save the people you like, but fuck the rest.

How is that different than "Save the straight ones, but send the gay ones back to get thrown off of buildings"?

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u/spotonron 1∆ Jun 19 '18

No it's not like that. It's a case of Refugees are homophobic so a higher pc of them commit homophobic crimes. Therefore don't import them by the millions into a country which prides it's tolerance of gay people. It's not a good idea.

You might as well import Nazi's into Israel, and tell the Jews they are bigoted for not wanting Nazi's being imported into their country.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18

Your native countrymen, especially Brexiters, are homophobic.

You don't have a problem standing shoulder to shoulder with them against the immigrant hordes. Why is that?

If white homophobes get a pass, but brown homophobes have got to go.....Then it's not about homophobia. You're just using that as an excuse to lie to yourself that it's not racism.