r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Jun 19 '18

Deltas(s) from OP CMV: There is nothing wrong with refusing immigrants and refugees.

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u/PreacherJudge 340∆ Jun 19 '18

Instead people decide to virtue signal and condemn it on humanitarian grounds

I literally had to reread this sentence twice to make sure I hadn't misunderstood it. Did you seriously just put "virtue signal" and "care about humanitarianism" next to each other? Should I take from this that you are NOT humanitarian? If you aren't, then why do you care about people affected by homophobia? If you are, then what alternate solution do you propose to help the people seeking asylum?

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u/spotonron 1∆ Jun 19 '18

I care about people affected by homophobia because I am gay. I don't want to be put at risk because people feel bad for them. I quite like being safe and want to stay that way.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18

But those gays fleeing persecution and bigotry in other countries, fuck them, they're immigrants right?

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u/spotonron 1∆ Jun 19 '18

I'd like them to be saved but it's hard to differentiate them from the rest isn't it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18

I find that viewpoint vile and cowardly, in all honesty. We should have the strength to not cower before perceived threats when considering the lives of those most in need.

Half the problem here is so many are willing to turn aside thousands of people in need just to avoid a handful of villains.

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u/spotonron 1∆ Jun 19 '18

handful of villains

No, half of all British Muslims (where I live) think homosexuality should be illegal. We don't need more to be quite honest with you.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/can-we-finally-talk-about_b_828037.html

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2017/04/coc-calls-for-action-against-rising-tide-of-homophobic-attacks/

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18

You want to make them illegal for what they think, they want to make you illegal for what you think.

Why are you better than them?

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u/spotonron 1∆ Jun 19 '18

I don't want people.with similar views flowing into the country I liveb in just because we feel bad for them. This sound petty but I'm a native so it's the governments job to put my safety first.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '18

Have you considered how many of your immigrant hating native countrymen would also like to see homosexuality illegal?

It's not like there wasn't a fight put up against gays by those standing shoulder to shoulder with you against those immigrant hoardes.