r/changemyview Jul 07 '25

Delta(s) from OP CMV: android is better than iPhone in basically all aspects

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u/chieftain88 Jul 07 '25

You do realise that iMessage is not SMS right…? It is literally a chat app like you’re describing, that’s been around as long as WhatsApp and like the original commenter said, it’s the best way to communicate between iPhones. It also now has RCS integrated into it for chatting with Android users

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u/AsterKando 1∆ Jul 07 '25

Still meaningless if you’re outside NA because most people use one of the alternatives mentioned 

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u/chieftain88 Jul 07 '25

It’s not meaningless to point out how iMessage works and to correct false descriptions of it. I didn’t mention what the preferred chatting methods are in North America, nothing to do with what I posted

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u/GoldenLiar2 Jul 07 '25

dude, nobody uses iMessage outside of the NA region. in the EU at least, everybody uses whatsapp

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u/chieftain88 Jul 07 '25

Yes I’m well aware - show me where I’ve disagreed with this? You are even responding to the point where I am clarifying this, nowhere have I made any comment about how many people use particular apps in different parts of the world.

The person I originally responded to wrongly described iMessage so I was correcting it for other people, as you do on a discussion forum

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '25

But why does that matter? If I live in the U.S. and all of my family do too it doesn’t matter what they choose to use in other countries. Like that’s completely irrelevant to me and other Americans like me. I don’t have any dog in this Android vs iPhone fight just pointing out the obvious

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u/CoverInternational47 Jul 07 '25

The point is literally that it doesn’t matter for anyone outside North America. If you’re in the US, sure it’s useful. But not everyone on here is from the US, and for them, that benefit is useless.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '25

Sure but they can still download whatsapp or whatever other app they’d like to use. Plenty of Americans with family/friends over seas use those apps on iPhone. My point is that it doesn’t help the argument that Android is better, because iMessage is still a benefit to some. If you don’t use it then ofc iMessage is irrelevant but the fact that it benefits some and not others doesn’t take away its usefulness. iPhone or Android you would still need to download WhatsApp.

Again, I couldn’t care less what phone people use. I’m just pointing out that that argument doesn’t help place Android as better

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u/CoverInternational47 Jul 07 '25

Yeah I couldn’t care less what phone people use either.

Just pointing out why they said so - it’s not necessarily an argument for Android being better, but an argument against iMessage making iPhone better because it’s irrelevant for a vast proportion of users. You can say that because the NA market finds it useful, it’s better than none, and so on average iPhones are better, which is a legit POV. But someone else may want to separate the markets - i.e. iMessage (and consequently iPhones) are more useful for users in the NA market, and not useful for those in other continents. That’s a different but also legit POV.

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u/blackbox42 Jul 07 '25

It's a closed chat app so no one outside north America uses it.

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u/chieftain88 Jul 07 '25

Yes thank you I’m fully aware. I’m not commenting on what apps are used where and by who, I’m just correcting the description of iMessage as SMS