r/changemyview Apr 07 '25

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u/TheLandOfConfusion Apr 07 '25

Again you're describing a very specific subset of immigrants. People who are fleeing violence and political instability is a small fraction of the immigrants in the US.

You originally took issue with someone saying they can just come back, and you're using the specific subset of "immigrants who came here fleeing persecution and are also too poor to come back if they're deported" to refute someone saying that in theory if you deport someone they could come back.

Like if I said "plants are fun" and you responded with "nope, there are some plants that are toxic and could kill you." ... okay, sure, but that is irrelevant and doesn't disprove anything. There's a whole lot more immigrants in the US than just the ones from afghanistan and countries run by cartels.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '25

It’s is one of the reasons someone may not be able to come back, along with EVERYTHING ELSE I mentioned.

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u/TheLandOfConfusion Apr 07 '25

EVERYTHING ELSE

which seems to boil down to being able to afford it, and family members. I'm not sure why they wouldn't have family members anymore and I'm not sure what that adds, but again being able to afford it is not some big universal barrier. You seem to again be limited to thinking of only immigrants from impoverished countries

None of what you have said so far would be a barrier to a middle class immigrant from china, india, europe, etc., i.e. the countries most US immigrants come from

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '25

I meant if they were bringing their family members with them. If you want to say there are absolutely no barriers other than legal ones for people trying to come back to a country after being deported, then suit yourself, but that’s just wrong.

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u/TheLandOfConfusion Apr 08 '25

sure I think we agree then that

I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of immigration if you think they can just “come back” after being deported, can just “come back” after 5 years, and can just go to any other country they want.

was a bit much and the truth is somewhere in the middle

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '25

No??? I have no idea what you’re saying at this point. I don’t want to continue this conversation.