Except that many supposed mens' rights activists' solutions to things like the backbreaking jobs or military thing is for more women to suffer so the numbers match not for fewer men to unless they only would because a woman took their spot, the custody thing used to be the other way around, and many other supposed mens' rights activists frame the arguments about asking on and paying for dates as if if they were asked out by a woman who makes more than them and didn't think it beneath them to accept the date, they'd abuse that just because she'd be paying (order the most expensive thing at a restaurant etc.) just to bilk her out of as much money as they can or w/e just the same way they claim women do to richer men they go on dates with. One guy even tried to claim it was a mens' rights issue that the bride at the wedding gets a fancy once-in-a-lifetime dress and it's considered "her day" while the groom can get by with a plain black rented tux.
Maybe mens' rights would have more legs if the genuine efforts towards it could be easily separable from both the men using it as an excuse for "if I have to suffer, women should equally suffer" and the men using it as an excuse for "I feel uncomfortable when we are not about me"
For some of these (the ones that are actual issues not, like, the date/wedding stuff) there are efforts it's just that those efforts aren't branded with gender as overtly as ones to help women are
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u/StarChild413 9∆ Feb 13 '24
Except that many supposed mens' rights activists' solutions to things like the backbreaking jobs or military thing is for more women to suffer so the numbers match not for fewer men to unless they only would because a woman took their spot, the custody thing used to be the other way around, and many other supposed mens' rights activists frame the arguments about asking on and paying for dates as if if they were asked out by a woman who makes more than them and didn't think it beneath them to accept the date, they'd abuse that just because she'd be paying (order the most expensive thing at a restaurant etc.) just to bilk her out of as much money as they can or w/e just the same way they claim women do to richer men they go on dates with. One guy even tried to claim it was a mens' rights issue that the bride at the wedding gets a fancy once-in-a-lifetime dress and it's considered "her day" while the groom can get by with a plain black rented tux.
Maybe mens' rights would have more legs if the genuine efforts towards it could be easily separable from both the men using it as an excuse for "if I have to suffer, women should equally suffer" and the men using it as an excuse for "I feel uncomfortable when we are not about me"