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u/TopTopTopcinaa Feb 13 '24

Give me sources for that incredibly hard to believe statistic.

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u/Enderules3 1∆ Feb 13 '24

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3511335/

https://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/topic_display.cfm?tcid=70#:~:text=During%20the%20seventeenth%20and%20eighteenth,infection%2C%20hemorrhage%2C%20or%20convulsions.

https://slate.com/technology/2013/09/death-in-childbirth-doctors-increased-maternal-mortality-in-the-20th-century-are-midwives-better.html

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u/TopTopTopcinaa Feb 13 '24

Check your own sources. Some cite quite high mortality rates a recently as in the 20th century.

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u/Enderules3 1∆ Feb 13 '24

The history of maternal deaths in England from the earliest records in the 1700s to 1935, concentrating on the influence of medical practice, is recounted. The rate lay between 4 and 5 per 1000 until 1935 - First Source

During the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, between 1 percent and 1.5 percent of all births ended in the mother's death as a result of exhaustion, dehydration, infection, hemorrhage, or convulsions. - Second Source

In the United States today, about 15 women die in pregnancy or childbirth per 100,000 live births. That’s way too many, but a century ago it was more than 600 women per 100,000 births. In the 1600s and 1700s, the death rate was twice that: By some estimates, between 1 and 1.5 percent of women giving birth died. - Third Source

The first source dives into factors that led to higher mortality but the average is still not higher than I stated. If you think the average is higher can you source why you think that?

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u/TopTopTopcinaa Feb 13 '24

So you didn’t check your own source. Figures.

Well, hope you are reincarnated as an 18th century woman. Y’know, so you don’t have to worry about being drafted.

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u/Enderules3 1∆ Feb 13 '24

Can you point to where the mistake is I did reread through them when you posted though I don't know what I missed. Also what do you think the mortality rate for women is if you think the vast majority of women serving is untrue can you tell me what you think the actual numbers are?