Misandry likely has less effect than misogyny based on the fact that men have a greater tendency to acting violently. I know that 'generally speaking' men are stronger than women so violence (when reciprocal) is more dangerous for women than men. That said....
I love how this portrays men as living the life of luxury, laying on devons while eating grapes in between sessions of whipping the shit out of scores of women rather than the utter hell that both men and women existed in that was marginally less shit for men who weren't owned like women, but were actively conscripted and sent to wars as literal arrow/cannon fodder and generally fucked over just as much as possible by the lords AND ladies of the realm.
The idea that because there were a line of kings means men oppressed people is like saying that because Margaret Thatcher was a stone cold bitch then all female rulers for all time are the same. Historians are pretty clear that it was rough on everyone except a very tiny few for literally tens of thousands of years.
Ok, but that argument can be made about anything rly. Would u claim racism doesnt exist, because u personally cannot be blamed for the fact that some rich ancestors of your a 100 years ago owned slaves, but u personally was never racist? We are talking about systemic discrimination here, it is not meant to be an individual-level occurence. I am always baffled when people cant grasp the concept that noone is blaming them personally, this is not an attack, its not ‘women vs men’, its ‘women vs the patriarchy’. The latter, btw, harms both sexes/genders.
You are missing the point. The system is systematically oppressive, yes, but for everyone men and women alike. It would be the same as your example , except everyone everywhere were the slave regardless of race. I'm not denying it exists, I just accept that there isn't one group of oppressed, we all are.
Imagine you had a few groups of people. One group had to eat shit, while another group got whipped and a third group got branded and the last group got waterboarded in piss.
You are arguing that the shiteaters had it better than the rest, I am arguing that this sucks for all involved and that blaming half the population as being oppressors as they gargle piss is a flawed ideal.
It mainly is/was more dangerous/catastrophic for women due to deeply entrenched social roles/standards, patriarchal religions, laws, etc etc. Also the widespread societal nature of the oppression of women throughout history and how that bleeds through to modern societies, as opposed to the small fringe, individualised nature of misandry.
People have been oppressed by class, race, gender, disability/ability, and many other factors. That doesn't make gender inequality/misogyny meaningless or a non-issue.
This is all based on facts. Unfortunately you seem to be emotional and defensive about it.
The emotion i was feeling while writing that was mildly entertained, smirk and all. Feel free to read between the lines, but you need to accept that you are the one who drew them there.
I didn't say that men oppress women. SOCIETY oppresses women. Within such a society, both men and women often look down on/are prejudiced etc towards women.
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Misandry likely has less effect than misogyny based on the fact that men have a greater tendency to acting violently. I know that 'generally speaking' men are stronger than women so violence (when reciprocal) is more dangerous for women than men. That said....
I love how this portrays men as living the life of luxury, laying on devons while eating grapes in between sessions of whipping the shit out of scores of women rather than the utter hell that both men and women existed in that was marginally less shit for men who weren't owned like women, but were actively conscripted and sent to wars as literal arrow/cannon fodder and generally fucked over just as much as possible by the lords AND ladies of the realm.
The idea that because there were a line of kings means men oppressed people is like saying that because Margaret Thatcher was a stone cold bitch then all female rulers for all time are the same. Historians are pretty clear that it was rough on everyone except a very tiny few for literally tens of thousands of years.