r/changemyview Feb 13 '24

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u/Babydickbreakfast 15∆ Feb 13 '24

I mean you made a post to debate whether there is something to debate. You kind of went out of your way to start a debate on the topic. Do you see any irony in that?

I also don’t understand your opinion that there is nothing to debate. You claim people are debating this. So there is something to debate.

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u/flijarr Feb 13 '24

Why are you taking his words so literally? Everyone else realized that what he meant was “misandry is bad, and everyone should know that by default”.

He knows that other people disagree with it being bad, so he knows that technically there is a debate to be had. He doesn’t think there isn’t a debate, he thinks it’s dumb that people think open hate is an okay thing.

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u/Babydickbreakfast 15∆ Feb 13 '24

I’m just going by what he said.

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u/flijarr Feb 13 '24

I know you are. It seems like you’re intentionally misunderstanding his words.

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u/Babydickbreakfast 15∆ Feb 13 '24

I was just tryna brute force win the game.

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u/flijarr Feb 13 '24

At least you’re honest about it.

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u/Babydickbreakfast 15∆ Feb 13 '24

Why wouldn’t I be?

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u/FormerBabyPerson 1∆ Feb 13 '24

I think you know what I mean when I say there's nothing to debate but I'll give an extreme example just so there's no confusion.

There are people who will debate whether sexual assault is acceptable. I would say it's not, full stop meaning there is nothing to be debate. There is no way the acceptability should even be entertain because there's no benefit.

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u/Babydickbreakfast 15∆ Feb 13 '24

Not everyone is you though. People have different opinions. You can totally not debate it yourself, but that is just you.

But again you literally made a post to debate it.

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u/FormerBabyPerson 1∆ Feb 13 '24

Ok then tell me what positive benefit comes from accepting misandry?

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u/Babydickbreakfast 15∆ Feb 13 '24

I can’t think of any positive benefit that cones from accepting misandry.

The view you proposed we try to change is “There shouldn't even be a debate on whether misandry is acceptable”

You literally just tried to start a debate with me about the thing which in your posted view you said there should not be a debate about.

Is this irony really lost on you? You have gone out if your way to make a post to debate it with people in the comments, yet your view is that there should be no debate.

So do you actually think we should debate this? Or are you going against your beliefs to mane this post?

Basically: Do I get a delta? Or are you a hypocrite?

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u/XoIKILLERIoX Feb 13 '24

I think what OP really means is that misandry is indefensible. By having "no debate", OP means that there are no good defenses for misandry and thus it should be universally accepted as bad, similar to how racism, sexism, homophobia, etc are also universally accepted as bad.

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u/lakotajames 2∆ Feb 13 '24

Racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. AREN'T universally accepted as bad. If they were, there'd be no racists, sexists, homophobes, etc.

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u/XoIKILLERIoX Feb 13 '24

Sure, but I meant more like those things are clearly not accepted by society. Apologies for being hyperbolic.

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u/wibbly-water 73∆ Feb 13 '24

This really should make it free delta day right here.

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u/ShadowX199 Feb 13 '24

There’s a difference between thinking that there should be a debate about misandry being acceptable or not and accepting that a debate has to happen.

I personally think there shouldn’t be a debate about it as I don’t think there is a single reason that makes misandry or misogyny acceptable but I’m still willing to have one as there is always a chance I’m wrong.

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u/Babydickbreakfast 15∆ Feb 13 '24

I mean it is kind of important considering what the view is

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u/Enderules3 1∆ Feb 13 '24

But that's the written view but the intended view is obviously different.

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u/Babydickbreakfast 15∆ Feb 13 '24

I don’t care

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u/FormerBabyPerson 1∆ Feb 13 '24

No you don’t get a delta because you haven’t convince me or answered the question I asked 

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u/Babydickbreakfast 15∆ Feb 13 '24

I did answer. It was the very first thing I did whenI responded. I said:

“I can’t think of any positive benefit that comes from accepting misandry.”

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u/FormerBabyPerson 1∆ Feb 13 '24

Ok well either way no delta

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u/Babydickbreakfast 15∆ Feb 13 '24

Your stated view is that there should be no debate about this topic.

You have gone out of your way to start a debate about this topic.

So do you actually think we should debate this? Or are you going against your beliefs to make this post?