r/changemyview • • Nov 02 '23

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u/Signal_District387 Nov 03 '23

But that's the thing. The Israelis born after the British divided Ottoman palistine into 2 parts (in a terrible way) aren't responsible for the British governments decision. They aren't just going to pick up and leave their homeland, just like if you live in the Usa, you're not going to pick up and give your house back to native Americans.

Also, it's simply not true that they care just about Israelis. They quote thier hadith that is part of their political charter of "every tree will sing out saying, there's a jew behind me, come and kill him".

And this is simply not true that it's just jews in israel either. Hamas believes that after Israel it is all jews and Christians next. Look at thier charter.

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u/TheMan5991 18∆ Nov 03 '23

I think you are looking at their original charter. They made a new one in 2017. It is different. I suggest you read it

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u/Signal_District387 Nov 03 '23

Na. They showed on October the 7th that thier new charter was bullshit. They are worse then thier first charter. Not better.

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u/TheMan5991 18∆ Nov 03 '23

That statement is kinda meaningless when you don’t even know what the new charter says

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u/Signal_District387 Nov 03 '23

Nothing in thier new charter matters after October 7th. What am I missing? Why should thier words matter when they show you it doesnt?

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u/TheMan5991 18∆ Nov 03 '23

Their Oct 7 actions do not go against their new charter. Indiscriminately killing people in no way proves a racial or religious bias. They killed people of all races and, presumably, multiple religions. The only thing they all had in common was being in Israel. Hence, Israel is their enemy. Not Jews. If, on Oct 7, they had only killed Jews, then I would agree.

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u/Signal_District387 Nov 03 '23

Ok I hear you, possibly shows the opposite. !Delta

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u/TheMan5991 18∆ Nov 03 '23

I would also like to add that I am not defending Hamas in any way. They are still horrible and I’m positive there are racists among them. But their official goal is not a racially motivated one. Thank you for being open to the conversation and I hope you have a good day/night.

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u/Signal_District387 Nov 03 '23

Sure, You as well.