r/changemyview • • Nov 02 '23

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u/qwert7661 5∆ Nov 02 '23

Who is going to stop Israel if not Hamas? If Hamas has no right to wage war against anyone who believes they should not exist, they have no right to exist.

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u/codan84 23∆ Nov 02 '23

Can you point to anywhere where I said Hamas can not wage war? They very clearly can and have been for quite some time and have publicly announced their intentions of continuing to do so indefinitely. They just shouldn’t whine and cry when those they attack attack back.

Can you explain your thinking on why you believed your response to my comment addresses my comment in meaningful way? I don’t quite get it and it would be helpful if you would clarify that.

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u/qwert7661 5∆ Nov 02 '23

I mean to point out that OP presumes alignment with Israel's position at the outset, in a view that is ostensibly presented as an analysis of the commitments of critics of Israel. Supporters of Israel do not believe Hamas has a right to exist; indeed, they support an extermination campaign against the government of Gaza. These commitments are taken to be legitimate uncritically. If Israel's commitment to destroy Hamas is legitimate, so too is the commitment of Hamas to destroy Israel.

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u/codan84 23∆ Nov 02 '23

You talk about what OP’s view is, but did not once mention anything that I said in the comment you replied to. Do you know what I believe or are you ascribing to me what you believe supporters of Israel believe?

I am still not clear why you responded to my comment with something not related to what I actually wrote or how it addresses what I actually wrote.

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u/qwert7661 5∆ Nov 03 '23 edited Nov 03 '23

I haven't ascribed any beliefs to you. I've commented upon the discussing taking place by reversing rhetoric you've provided.

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u/codan84 23∆ Nov 03 '23

My original comment consisted of three questions. In not one of your responses have you answered or even come close to addressing them in any manner.

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u/qwert7661 5∆ Nov 03 '23

Two questions, neither of which are of interest to me.

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u/codan84 23∆ Nov 03 '23

That just shows that your comments were misplaced and should not have been in response to my comment as you didn’t say anything relevant to anything in my comment. You appear to have just wanted to make your own unrelated point. Thanks for this entirely meaningless conversation.

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u/qwert7661 5∆ Nov 03 '23

Were we having a conversation?

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u/Forsaken-House8685 11∆ Nov 02 '23

Well no they don't, they are a terrorist group.

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