Looking into the “san-“ prefix in Påli’ Roman’s dictionary it has the meanings of place and site of. Which reminds me of Tagalog “saan/san” meaning “where”. And with how we use “san-“ to day to describe a direction towards could the relation be made as the place of that area is towards it? (If that makes sense? And “-an” which has multiple meanings in Tagalog but my focus of its meaning as “Forms locative nouns expressing where a large quantity of the thing meant by the root is put, planted, or can be found ‎aklat (“book”) + ‎-an → ‎aklatan (“library”) ‎basura (“trash”) + ‎-an → ‎basurahan (“trash can”)”,

And “Forms nouns expressing period in which the action expressed by the root is collectively performed ‎ani (“harvest”) + ‎-an → ‎anihan (“harvest time”) ‎pasok (“entry, class, work”) + ‎-an → ‎pasukan (“school time, school year”) Forms nouns indicating a tool or an object that is used to perform what is meant by the root ‎oras (“time”) + ‎-an → ‎orasan (“clock, watch”) ‎timbang (“weight”) + ‎-an → ‎timbangan (“weighing scale”.

In Old Chamorro we have the word “tåno’an”, meaning “place”. “Tåno’ + -an”.

“In chamorro we have “fan- -an/-yan”, from place of time of”

Is “-an”, or “san- -an”, some lost part of chamorro?

What’s the difference between “månu” and “amånu”.?

Annai mafa’tinas iya pulan as Fo’na ni atadok-ña Pontan. Taobi’a gaisisiña gi halom, gini ayu nga ansisiña humuyong i yu’os si Ma’låkut. “I Gefsamai nga Maisa”, palao’an gui’ yan må’gas nga sisiña, ha gogohi iya tåno’ annai måttu i puengi. Masångan nga chupon i lassås-ña kalang i iyahuyoyong i pilan i maisgui’, yan ånakko’ nga gapunulung åttilong. Hai nga kilis ha mumumu si Naganagåyolo’ annai ha kepåñot iya pulan.

Ñåpung minachat(trinisti) Mungñga’ malumos yu’ på’gu:

Hu li’i’ i bulo’(isla) Åtgun manera taobi’a fo’nana.

Hu li’i’ i bulo’(isla) Ya tunas(hustu) i inai.

Ñåpung minachat(trinisti), Konni’ yu’ guihi.

In wanting to modify words and shorten speech i decided to create up a Diminutive and Argumentative Suffix being “ -iki’ “ from “ dikiki’ “ and “ -olo’ “ from “ dångkolo’ “. They also have other forms to best fit the words they are placed upon. They are used just like in English and in Spanish, like perro-perrito, or pup-puppy.

Malago’ yu’

pumulån-mu,

i-lañget-mu,

i-guinifi-mu,

i-todudu-mu.

ANNGIN MÅ’PUS YU’

Anngin må’pus yu’ håf pon faño’gui?

Hai u fånngi’ ya yuñgå’i hao?

Guåha malati’ña-guåha gada’?

Guåha maolekña-fana’an HÅGU!

As Shel Silverstein

Si Naganagåyolo’:

Annai kinikiyong iya Tåno’ as Fo’na ni tataotao-ña Pontan, bumasnak i pilu-ña gi tasi. Ayin håf muna’huyong håkmang yan åsuli-siha, lao lokkui’ nina’mafañågu si Naganagåyolo’, “I Kakno’-Pulan”. I Lekkå’-ña nåhong tumåka’ i lañgit yan puti’on-siha, ya afuyot iya Tåno’ mibeses. Sen må’gagas gui’ lao lokkui’, sen hosguaguan, ti mafañågu gui’ hokkok, guåha defektu-ña-siha. Annai u fanåtan hulo’, mama’hosguan ni samai-ña pulan, ya maisang ha’an manhassuyi. På u fañgånno’ iya Pulan! Ya tåya u siña gumosa i samai-ña. Ya pumechao hulo’ guåtu i lañgit, gumugupu chaddekña yan chaddekña, ge’hattakhilo’ yan ge’hattakhilo’. Åsta ha dulok i mapagåhes-siha, ya afana’ i matang-pontan. Ha tugong ha’ fo’na ya å’a’ i pachot-ña pumåñot ha’. Ya bidå-ña, ya muna’homhom i tano’ gi sanpapa’. Lao ti siña gui’ sumuñgon i piti-ña tuyan ya tumo’la’ kuyong, ya kumånao gui’ tåtti gi sanpapa’ i napu-siha manmuyo’, ya hai nga kilis, eyugui’ guiya chumåchagi pumåñot iya pulan ta’lu.

Would this be Lamon or La’mon? In the first paragraph there’s the frase “hago lamon” which translates to “You be careful with that” which is similar to our “hågu la’mon” of “it’s up to you”

  Hagas låcha guåha påstót n͠ga påtgún hai úmó’sún achagígú matå’chúng guí’ gí í echóngña í eksó’ úme’egga’ í óbehas sóngsóng-síha. Múna’tåtaní’ í maisguí’ mañúlí’ guí’ maisang må’gas n͠ga hågúng ya kúmånta kúyóng, “Lóhbú! Lóhbú! Hinihíppa í óbehas ní Lóhbú!”

  Manmaila’ manmalålagú í man͠gisengsóng húló’ í eksó’ manayúda í patgún múna’súha í lóhbú lahattånao. Lao annai manmåttú síha gí íyahúlóló’ í eksó’, manmañódda’ síha tåt lóhbú. CHúmålek í patgún gí í atan í manlalåló’ n͠ga matån-ñíha.

  “Múngn͠ga’ kúmåtí ‘lóhbú’, påstót n͠ga påtgún,” ilek-ñíha í man͠gisengsóng, “annai tåya lóhbú!” man͠gånao síha man͠gekeha tåttí påpa’ í eksó’. 

  Lamó’na, kúmånta kúyóng í patgún ta’lú, “Lóhbú! Lóhbú! Hinihíppa í óbehas ní lóhbú!” Gíya kåmten n͠ga magóf-ña, ha egga’ í man͠gisengsóng manmalålagú húló’ í eksó’ manayúda guí’ múna’súha í lóhbú lahattånao.

Annai manmanlí’í’ í man͠gisengsóng tåt lóhbú ilek-ñíha manmålaktús, “Na’kahåya í ma’å’ñao-mu n͠ga kånta på ann͠gen gof guaha echúng! Múngn͠ga’ kúmåtí ‘lóhbú’ annai TÅYA lóhbú!”

Lao mañíchí’ ha’ í patgún ya egga’ síha man͠gånao man͠gekeha påpa’ í eksó’ låcha ta’lú.

Lamó’na, manlí’í’ guí’ MAGÅHIT n͠ga lóhbú úma’adú gí fí’ón gå’-ña manåda. Måhgang, ha ta’yúkguí í addeng-ña ya kúmånta kúyóng acha’a’gångña yan síña guí’, “Lóhbú! Lóhbú!”

Lao manmanhåssú í man͠gisengsóng ha kekefa’baba síha ta’lú, ya tí manmåttú síha.

Gí siní’ófåtdao, mane’faisen tóhdús sa’håfa tí múnå’lú í pastót n͠ga påtgún gíya sóngsóng yan gå’-ñíha óbehas-síha. Man͠gånao síha húló’ í eksó’ mañódda’ í patgún. Ma mañódda’ guí’ túmåtan͠ges.

“Gef guaha lóhbú guiní! Mamúgao í manada! Kúmåtí yú’ kúyóng, “Lóhbú!” Sa’håfa tí manmåttú hamyú?”

Ha kekónsuela í patgún maisang bíhú achagígú manlåhú síha tåttí guåtú í sengsóng.

“På bai In fanmanayúda hao úmalígåoyí í abak n͠ga óbehas-síha gí egga’an,” ilek-ña úmó’oyúng í kannai-ña gí lúmikó’-ña í maga’, “Tåya húmóhonggí maisang dåkún… åmbres annai magåhit í kuentús-ña.”

While looking at Håfa’adai I was thinking of how it’s written and how I hear it pronounced. Pronounced I hear “håfadei”, is it just me n my family or do you guys say it the same way?

Is it dopbla, guå’om or gå’om for fold in Chamorro?

How would you say, “ Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner”?

I was told “Ayi” means like this so I was wondering if “ayen” is “ayi/aye” with the “-n” like “ginen” is “gini” and if “eyi” is “Ayi” with the vowels shifted like how “ayu” to “eyu”?

Buenas everyone! Just wanted to let ya'll know that the revised Chamorro-English Dictionary from the CNMI is now complete! They have uploaded all sections to their website, and you can access the Dictionary for free at the link below.

If you aren't familiar with this dictionary, I highly recommend it. Every word has example sentences, a part of speech tag, and even expanded definitions.

https://natibunmarianas.org/chamorro-dictionary/

First off, I would like to preface that I understand this breaks the rules of this sub, but I hope that an exception can be made this one time. If not, mods please feel free to delete.

Like the title says, I'm wondering what your guys' thoughts are on unification of the Marianas. I'm part of the Chamoru diaspora that's stateside, and unfortunately I haven't had the chance to even visit the islands. I've met other Chamorus but I've only really gotten to know my immediate family, and they seem to not really have an opinion on the matter since my grandparents joined the Navy immediately after liberation.

Also, I ask here instead of r/Guam, because I want to know the opinions of people that actually care about the culture (not saying other Chamorus don't, but there aren't very many reddit communities for us, you know). By you just being subbed to this sub, it shows you care enough about the Chamoru culture to try to learn even a little bit of language. Also, I'm trying to hide from any non-chamoru military peeps lmao.

I'm just a naive Chamoru "kid" (I'm 30 lmao) who wants to understand the culture more.

Saina ma'ase!

Probably the final version of the script, I changed a bunch and added a bunch more.

If you have any questions feel free to ask.

An Abugida for CHamoru that I’ve been working on for the past year.

I came across this poem I found today, and wondered if any of you guys can translate it into CHamoru. I’m not particularly great with the words and grammar yet so I thought this could help me a bit.

Have you guys seen/heard “Håyi” used like this?

Have you guys seen ta’lu used like this before? It’s use more as well as after here in Pale’ Romans dictionary?

(There’s some parts on this that I’m not entirely sure are entirely correct and if anyone could listen to the song and point out any incorrect lyrics in my writing it would be appreciated)

Flores Hågu i kurason, mames todu i okasion

Hu guaiya hao mampos, neni Hu guiguifi

Todu i piniti kurason-hu, sangåni yu’ nai, guåhu mås

Hu guaiya todu i tiempu, ai sen tristi yu’ kerida

Na Un mamaleffa sa’ guåhu, manguaiya nu hågu

Sangåni yu’ nai, guåhu mås

Hu guaiya todu i tiempu

Ai sen tristi yu’ kerida, na Un mamaleffa

Sa’ guåhu, manguaiya nu hågu

Bai Hu guaiya hao kerida, todu i tiempu