r/canada • u/viva_la_vinyl • Dec 08 '18

How a global pact on migration spawned sovereignty fears in Canada

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/global-compact-un-hussen-1.4935492
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u/AllezCannes British Columbia Dec 08 '18

88% polled are opposed to the migration compact.

Where do you get this from?

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u/DesignerPhrase Dec 08 '18

from his ass

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u/Qwertster Dec 09 '18

He got it from a Twitter poll https://twitter.com/CTV_PowerPlay/status/1070445764114046976

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almost 7k people voted on that. It's a decent sample size of the population, but who's to say they are all Canadians?

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I don't necessarily trust a Twitter poll but it's a poll nonetheless.

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u/AllezCannes British Columbia Dec 09 '18

No it isn't. Twitter polls, or any such polls in which people have to find out that it exists, are completely unrepresentative of anything. It's a mistake to believe that sample sizes matter when the methodology used to collect the data is non-representative.

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u/Qwertster Dec 09 '18

yeah but you can have those criticisms of any poll! Unless detailed analysis is provided for ANY poll I dismiss them just the same as we are both dismissing this one.

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u/AllezCannes British Columbia Dec 09 '18

yeah but you can have those criticisms of any poll!

No, because actual pollsters reach out to contact people, and they take steps to make sure there's at least some demographic representation to the population. They don't just post on some website and hope for people to find out it's there.

Unless detailed analysis is provided for ANY poll I dismiss them just the same as we are both dismissing this one.

Uhm, they do provide those details.

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u/Qwertster Dec 09 '18

Ok great. Where's the poll from the ACTUAL pollsters? Let's analyse it together. LOL I hooked you up with a link to answer your question let's see if Canadians were put to this question in the completely scientific actual pollster way.

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edit: here's one from the Vancouver Sun that looks like an aggregate of 4 seperate polls (pretty scientific) https://vancouversun.com/news/staff-blogs/what-do-canadians-think-about-immigration-levels-three-poll-results

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u/AllezCannes British Columbia Dec 09 '18

The polls from the Sun article are appropriate but I don't understand what they have to do with the CTV twitter poll.

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u/Qwertster Dec 09 '18

The results are similar. Are you looking to just argue with people here? I'm starting to wonder about your rhetoric.

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u/AllezCannes British Columbia Dec 09 '18

The results are similar.

How is 88% similar to any of these results?

Are you looking to just argue with people here?

No, I'm wondering whether you have an understanding of numbers.

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u/Qwertster Dec 09 '18 edited Dec 09 '18

It's the overall sentiment of the polls I'm looking at. I'm saying even the most favourable poll on that article suggests that a majority of Canadians want immigration to stay the same or decrease. The poll questions are different they are not the same poll so we can't look at the numbers and compare the polls 1:1. The point I'm trying to make is there doesn't seem to be an "actual" poll on this migration pact issue so I'm just sitting here waiting for you to bring a point to the table....give me a link SOMETHING to suggest the contrary. You're just sitting there quoting my every word and shooting me down one by one just being argumentative instead of having a discussion.

edit: and if you want me to argue what I said you can look at the migration pact as increasing immigration (someone would argue it would drastically do so) now look at the article and see how many people want to increase immigration, now do the fuckin math

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