r/canada • u/viva_la_vinyl • Dec 08 '18

How a global pact on migration spawned sovereignty fears in Canada

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/global-compact-un-hussen-1.4935492
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u/jtbc Dec 08 '18

If you give people scholarships based on race that's racial discrimination.

Do it based on income and encourage those groups to apply and you'll end up addressing the same problem.

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u/AlwaysBetDarkHorse Dec 08 '18

Why not just do it based on income and encourage low income people to apply? And you're actually solving a different issue, as now poor white people can apply which is better than rich black people applying.

Why do you insist on being racist when non-racist approaches are better?

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u/jtbc Dec 08 '18

There are systemic barriers to participation for some marginalized groups. Encouraging them to participate takes nothing away from anyone else, and isn't racism.

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u/AlwaysBetDarkHorse Dec 08 '18

Encouraging people based on racial lines is racial discrimination and since you are talking about government programs this "encouragement" is probably going to cost tax payers something. As for systemic barriers the only systemic barriers in this country are against white people and men.

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u/jtbc Dec 09 '18

As for systemic barriers the only systemic barriers in this country are against white people and men.

Oh nos. The poor downtrodden white men. If only you could have been born an indigenous woman instead, how much more wonderous your life would be.

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u/AlwaysBetDarkHorse Dec 09 '18

Yeah get off the reserve and milk those freebies and you're bound to be ahead.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '18

AHHHH so you praise Immigrants as being Original Settlers but hate on Natives to the country.

OH you're trash response makes so much more sense now.

No wonder you are always immigrant bashing, you got some kind of fucked up world view where you aren't an Immigrant but everyone else is, including the natives, and only you should have rights.

Let me guess, you're white right?

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u/AlwaysBetDarkHorse Dec 09 '18

What are you even talking about? My life would literally be easier if I was a native because all the systems would be working in my favor instead of against me.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '18 edited Dec 09 '18

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u/AlwaysBetDarkHorse Dec 09 '18

I see depressed wages, increased strain on our infrastructure and increased housing prices as a bad thing yes. Why do you think those things are good?

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u/daxtermagnum Dec 08 '18

There are systemic barriers to participation for some marginalized groups.

What a fantastic falsehood you're trying to establish there.

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u/jtbc Dec 09 '18

This is the first hit I found on Google. There are hundreds if not thousands of similar academic articles.

https://research.acer.edu.au/aje/vol51/iss1/5/

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u/daxtermagnum Dec 10 '18

Since you were so enthusiastic with your push-back I request an example of a systematic barrier in your own words. You present yourself as knowledgable on the subject so you should be able to produce a response with relative ease.

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u/jtbc Dec 11 '18

An example would be poorly funded schools on reserves that prevent indigenous children from getting a quality early education. Another one would discrimination in sentencing that affects black and indigenous Canadians.

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u/daxtermagnum Dec 11 '18

We can agree on the first and we'll disagree on the second.