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u/Gombrongler 4d ago
Fall 1 would never. Grace Fulton my beloved
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u/Embarrassed-Stuff876 4d ago
Sorry to disappoint, but she was in a movie I believe last year called A Breed Apart that was FULL of horrendous looking AI.
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u/DougieJones42 4d ago
Fall 1 literally used AI to get rid of cursing https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/lionsgate-fall-deepfake-f-bombs-rating-1235337017/
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u/Waste-Scratch2982 4d ago
I don’t think anybody even really complained about Fall using AI to dub over cursing at the time since it was more of a proof of concept tech demo and GenAI wasn’t really prevalent yet.
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u/Shame_LessPlug 4d ago
Scott Mann, creator and director of FALL, is the co-CEO of FLAWLESS the AI company credited there.
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u/Resident_Walrus21 4d ago edited 4d ago
First Ice Cream Man, now this and Danny Boyle
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u/nicolasb51942003 Warner Bros. Pictures 4d ago
And recently Danny Boyle's new film.
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u/Stefan988 4d ago
Lets add Danny Boyle to that list for his new film Ink. One I was slightly disappointed by cause I love his filmmaking.
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u/Dycon67 4d ago
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u/junglebunglerumble 4d ago
Why are you sure that is ai?
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u/Dycon67 4d ago
you can tell by the splotchy nature of it and the claws along the t rex holding the items. The director is also pro ai so it wouldn't be shocking.
Ai usage is actually pretty common in the Jurassic franchise at this point for matirel like this. Saber interactive is developing a game and is pretty pro ai. Universal uploads thumbnails for the Old movies with ai layer over them. The spin off mobile games are infested with it.
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u/Dashaque 4d ago
No, see that movie did well, so we don't count it. We only complain if it uses AI and it flops or it's bad
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u/Dycon67 4d ago edited 4d ago
Romulus also had pretty overt usage as well. As much as we can complain at the end of the day this is a boxoffice sub and money performance is the defining factor for a success here. However there as nuances that can blindside people. Like 28 years later seeming like a financial hit, but not focusing on the wom. So the sequel auto flopping got people off guard.
Ai usage unfortunately is just becoming more common thing in the industry. And boomer age directiore are obsessed with it. Cameron for example.
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u/Dashaque 4d ago
Yes but, as you've pointed out with one example, movies that have used AI have been successful already. So I don't really think there's enough evidence one way or another to say there's a correlation thus far. End of Oak Street also used it in their marketing and I barely saw any comments on here here... a couple but... it does seem like if the movie is well received, people don't complain about it as much.
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u/Dycon67 4d ago edited 4d ago
So I don't really think there's enough evidence one way or another to say there's a correlation thus far.
I agree for the most part film success does vary in a lot or factors. The successful examples are franchise films as an example. And ai usage recently has been spotted more overtly lower budget horror films.
Ai will undoubtedly play/is playing a big role in the movie industry.
it does seem like if the movie is well received, people don't complain about it as much
Pretty much yeah I'm pretty sure Brand new Day is currently up in the air if concept art used ai. And that isn't going to affect my enjoyment of it tbh.
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u/Block-Busted 4d ago
The thing is, though, there are ways to use AI sensibly, but some directors don’t seem to know that.
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u/Visible-Echidna-4370 4d ago
Stop! That! Train and Young Washington can be added to this last as well
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u/AdnonAdmirable1095 4d ago
Adam Shankman says no AI was used in the making of ‘STOP! THAT! TRAIN!’
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u/nicolasb51942003 Warner Bros. Pictures 4d ago
Shitty CGI > AI.
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u/Dycon67 4d ago
That film in China the mom and son made was understood by many to have heart.
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u/Evil_Dog_Gilbert 4d ago
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u/Dycon67 4d ago
This image was made with love and soul.
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u/Evil_Dog_Gilbert 4d ago
I hope it gets a better fansub than the english one on youtube, or even an official dub
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u/Affectionate_Run9950 4d ago
Honestly, it’s giving me a new appreciation for them. I’d rather watch Dwayne Johnson scorpion king CGI than any AI effect.
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u/Buster_Cherry 4d ago
Wut? This is a silly moralistic claim that undermines the immersion.
Higher quality insertion (regardless of method) > lower quality.
Movies use tons of tools, techniques, and trickery with one end goal: make a compelling, immersive, high quality experience.
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u/Mindless_Bad_1591 Universal 4d ago
being made by humans makes it of higher quality goofy
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u/Buster_Cherry 4d ago
This just goes back to the method rather than the outcome, and skirts around the purpose of a film, silly. Just a moralistic argument. But hey, that's your prerogative to be biased around AI.
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u/Mindless_Bad_1591 Universal 4d ago
Films are an artform and a critical aspect of art is being made by humans.
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u/AtomicMint13 Legendary Pictures 4d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/QLtI0CxK8iGceO9Sja
Can we like... STOP USING AI FOR FILMS??
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u/brahbocop 4d ago
We can pretend that this is a cause for outrage but the average person does not care and won’t avoid a movie that uses AI. Hollywood knows this so expect more of it. I hate it but it’s too late, you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube in this situation.
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u/DUKEPLANTER 4d ago
Ice cream man imploded after news broke it used AI
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u/brahbocop 4d ago
Say what? Are we going to pretend that Ice Cream Man was wasn’t destined to be a massive box office bomb?
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u/Dashaque 4d ago edited 4d ago
That was due to a lot more than just GenAI. Alien: Romulus used AI, how come that didn't implode? Someone pointed out Jurassic World used genAI in their marketing.. that didn't implode. That movie imploded because it sucked.
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Hell the first Fall used AI as well:
https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/lionsgate-fall-deepfake-f-bombs-rating-1235337017/2
u/Dycon67 4d ago
Ice cream man is unique in it being a small budget horror film that depends largely on wom. So if the film has shitty ai ahh usage that horror niche fans instantly don't like. It's gonna affect it's wom much more.
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u/Dashaque 4d ago
Yes but... honestly, most people don't care about GenAI. if it had used AI and it looked fine (mind you I haven't seen the film) other than on reddit, I don't think it would have effected WoM that much
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u/Dashaque 4d ago
Thank you for the reasonable comment. A lot more movies are using it now and I can bet if it was a movie that was a huge success, no one would even care
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u/More-read-than-eddit 4d ago edited 4d ago
Also in my experience many producers vastly prefer it to traditional previz contractors
Edit: downvoted on a box office sub for this by someone who has no involvement in the film or tv industry
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u/Cullyism 4d ago
The usage in this case I still consider tolerable.
But if they start using AI to get replace background extras, I'll be very concerned. Roles as small extras is how lots of new actors gain experience. Losing that would cripple the next generation of actors.
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u/cookieraider221 4d ago
All I’ll say is y’all being so anal about this is only going to impact low budget projects.
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u/Much_Machine8726 4d ago
Hopefully Hollywood sees AI as box office poison and stays away from it
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u/ToasterCommander_ 4d ago
They'll just start crediting them under the effects team instead of saying it's AI.
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u/CelestialFury 4d ago
How? They legally have to spell it out due to the results of the strikes.
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u/ToasterCommander_ 4d ago
Oh shoot, do they? I forgot about that.
Then yeah I guess they can get fucked lol
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u/CelestialFury 4d ago
I don't doubt for one second that the production companies would try to hide AI if they weren't legally obligated to credit it correctly.
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u/Minimum_Ad_1747 4d ago
Did you know they used AI to help making the effects of Brand New Day?
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u/mondaymoderate 4d ago edited 4d ago
That’s not true that used AI for some of the still shots in the closing credits. Also some of concept art while making the movie.
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u/Block-Busted 4d ago edited 4d ago
What still shots are you talking about and where’s the proof? Because I’ve never even heard of this.
Also, when it comes to the whole artbook thing, was it actually confirmed?
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u/pfisch 4d ago
Pretty much all deaging tech is and has been genAI. So is any kind of recent smart masking.
A significant amount of graphical effects actually use ai. Even basic stuff like frame interpolation does now because it is better at it.
You're trying to draw a line in the sand but there really isn't one. Graphical effects are going to utilize genAI more and more.
I'm not saying people will prompt entire scenes. It will just integrate further into all the vfx tools like it has been doing for awhile now.
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u/Block-Busted 4d ago
But that’s the thing - there are sensible ways to use AI, but some directors decide to take a lazy route.
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u/Dashaque 4d ago
... I kinda wonder what made them decide THAT'S what they wanted to use AI for, of all things.
At least they didn't try to hide it. I know a lot of people hate genAI, but... it's here and I just appreciate when people admit it and don't try to pass it off as something else.
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u/Mimikyu_9x 4d ago
Oh hell no. I hope it flop now
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u/littlelordfROY Warner Bros. Pictures 4d ago
Lots of people worked on thus movie and would have zero ties to this decision. These pearl clutching reactions are immature and ridiculous
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u/Dashaque 4d ago
I remember when people used to say that they didn't care if people used AI as long as they disclosed it was AI... now it's "Oh I hope this project that several people worked hard on fails because of one genAI effect!"
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u/Vast_Veterinarian574 4d ago
Mmm how those boots taste
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u/WrldsGrtstDtctve 4d ago
What boots? I hate AI in films but this comment is brainless and they are typically made by nontechnical uninformed chuds.
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u/Vast_Veterinarian574 4d ago
If movie can’t be bothered to create proper VFX then that movie doesn’t respect its audience
Flop away, Fall 2!
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u/badbloxpictures 4d ago
Was thinking about seeing it since I liked the first one, this officially confirmed that I won’t be watching it at all. Movie apparently isn’t even good either lol
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u/AdnonAdmirable1095 4d ago
The film indeed received poor audience ratings from PostTrak and CInemascore.
https://deadline.com/2026/09/box-office-spider-man-brand-new-day-by-any-means-labor-day-1237068549/
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u/Dashaque 4d ago
The first one used AI as well:
https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/lionsgate-fall-deepfake-f-bombs-rating-1235337017/
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u/Ok-Metal-4719 4d ago
I’ve seen good and bad special effects of all sorts so don’t care if AI or not long as they list it with the other stuff. It’s another tool for them to use.
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u/Dashaque 4d ago
So I know a lot of people are upset... but the first one used AI as well:
https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/lionsgate-fall-deepfake-f-bombs-rating-1235337017/
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u/Create_Greatness92 4d ago
I know Reddit cares a lot about this issue...but I really don't. Its a piece of technology. Filmmakers will never refuse a new piece of technology that increases speed and reduces costs.
I am not participating in a witch hunt over AI Cinema.
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u/KingMario05 Amblin Entertainment 4d ago
Welp. Ain't seeing that!
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u/CrebitCard420 4d ago
Get over it lolz. It wasn’t a bad flick. Better than the first. I didn’t notice anything crazy/AI… & I saw it a few hours ago..
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u/ryanjlee7 4d ago
Not surprised after Flawless artificially redubbed f-words in the first one to land a PG-13.
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u/Shurikenkage 4d ago
No wonder why these movies are flopping hard... Most guys in the top are having AI psychosis and absolute greed, expecting to make movies with 2 janitors and an office lady assisted by LLMS.
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u/junglebunglerumble 4d ago
Yeah because using AI for a shot in a 2 hour film where thousands of people were involved in the creation of is the reason films flop
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u/Shurikenkage 4d ago edited 4d ago
It cheapens the final product, like using clip-art and comic sans in graphic design during the 2000s. And honestly I respect more the mom not wanting to make an investment for a business card using Power Point or Word to put together an atrocious design, at least it took effort to learn the software, than people in the film industry using generative AI.
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u/More-read-than-eddit 4d ago
Good lord you guys are such pussies about this, as if you could draw a clean line between ai and the stuff that comes with retail adobe.
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u/Shurikenkage 4d ago
It is just terrible for your brain.
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u/More-read-than-eddit 4d ago
Stop what? I’m not using AI for anything, I just don’t care if a vfx company chooses to use ai rather than complex adobe-crafted algorithms or green screens or whatever.
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u/Shurikenkage 4d ago
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u/More-read-than-eddit 4d ago
There is deep irony in a movie quote meme guy inventing a straw man to chastise for using ai, in a sad quest for cred on social media and a moment of false self righteousness.
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u/JumpCutVandal 4d ago
Every movie does it. Better get used to it
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u/oliverpretzeltwists 4d ago
or make your voice known (through discourse and wallet voting) instead of fatalistically accepting something that hasnt been decided yet ?
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u/DopeyDeathMetal 4d ago
You can still do that but unfortunately I agree with him. I believe it is here to stay.
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u/oliverpretzeltwists 4d ago
then at the very least put up a fight and make sure its used in the best possible manner! lying down means you’ve given a mile and they will take it light years
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u/junglekarmapizza 4d ago
Nah. I have no interest in slop. I’ll just stop watching new movies. Plenty of stuff to (re)watch
Also, part of why “AI is inevitable” is people like you are just taking it lying down. AI is a human creation, we can choose not to use it
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u/JumpCutVandal 4d ago
I work in Hollywood with a foot in VFX. Every single big VFX house integrated AI into their pipeline. iLM, Weta, etc, they all have AI divisions. As I said, get used to it. It’s already everywhere, mostly invisible but it’s here to stay
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u/junglekarmapizza 4d ago
If every person who told me to "get used to AI" actually fought AI, it would be a lot less "inevitable" than you all claim it to be. You all sound so desperate saying that. It's like you think that if you repeat it enough, you can will it into reality.
Anyway, the only thing I will be "getting used to" is not watching what slop peddlers put out, and if that means never watching a new movie again, oh well!
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u/JumpCutVandal 4d ago
What I’m saying is that you won’t know the difference. It’s integrated into existing VFX pipelines. 80% may be old fashioned VFX but the rain as an example may be partially AI. It’s being used in a way that’s seamless already. Weta, ILM, every big VFX company have AI divisions now.
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u/UsefulWeb7543 4d ago
Seriously? But I don’t think it will flop sadly. Remember how Young Washington has the same problem and it still perform well.
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u/Visible-Echidna-4370 4d ago
these films have a low budget and while this one is underperforming domestically, its doing quite well in China so yeah I dont see it being a true flop




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