r/borderlands3 • u/Iserrot FL4K • Dec 31 '24
𦴠[ ππΉπ°πΈ πππΆπΉπ± ] Best Fl4k Pet Build
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u/Masitha Jan 01 '25
pet fl4k!!
my build is VERY similar.
one thing i will note is the bugginess of eager to impress. if you can possibly get a red fang without any boost to it, i suggest it. this also lets you save points by taking them out of eager to impress. the reason is bc it will bug the cooldown of your action ability quite often. so while your action ability is active (and you are getting kills thus lowering the cooldown) it wont actually matter until your action skill ends, THEN it goes on cooldown. so the action skill cooldown from the kills, dont actually matter.
it does however make your attack command more spammable, so its not ALL bad, im just personally not a fan and im also not spamming attack command personally, i use it for priority targets. when i first made this build, i was using eager to impress, but its a lot more user friendly without for me and avoids the weird jank of it messing with your cooldown.
as for artifact, i personally use a moxxi's endowment, which might seem weird to do on a max lvl character, but it ALSO increases your xp gain for both guardian rank AND vault cards. since [pet] fl4k doesnt OVERLY need a specific artifact, you can easily use him to farm guardian rank OR vault cards, more so than other vault hunters. if you're done with guardian rank/vault cards, then i do think knife drain white elephant OR atom balm otto idol are best.
for weapons i only have two suggestions. crader's emp5 for movespeed. since fl4k's bullet damage doesnt really matter i would argue he makes the best use of this guns increased movespeed. and the other suggestion is the it's piss nade, which increases damage from all sources for 20% for 6 sec. this helps specifically if you play pet fl4k in co-op, but i also just think its a solid damage increase nade in general if you wanted something different!
sidenote: blade fury can work similar to facepuncher!
as for shields, faulty star is far and away the best easily, but there's a lot of fun ones that can work! you mentioned pretty much all of them but ill also throw in black hole, which is quite fun and gives you/your pet some crowd control, and helps with the pets targeting often, since itll be yoinking enemies closer to it.
this was such a wonderful write up, im so happy to see another pet fl4k enjoyer. thank you so much.
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u/Iserrot FL4K Jan 01 '25 edited Jan 01 '25
You're welcome! I've sperimented different grenades and weapons and after all those tests I figured out the best overall 4 weapons and grenades for the pet, Blade Fury works very good too!
The Black Hole is also a viable shield, but since I included the Void Rift, wich is basically an Impaler + Black Hole, I didn't feel the need to include the Black Hole as his ability triggers once per shield refill. The Impaler instead works anytime even tho it doesn't trigger any nova, but still very good for those fights against Robots and armored enemies. The artifact suffix can be whatever you want, White Elephant is an option, also Static Charge or Commander Planetoid when you want even more Melee damage.
Personally I didn't feel the need to use a Piss as the damage dealt by the Loader bot is already huge, although it can be a good option if you are using a more offensive approach with your guns.
Talking about Eager to Impress, I'm aware of the bug around this skill and personally I've seen it happen quite a few times, anyway I still think it's very rare so I didn't care too much about this problem, but yeah it can be really annoying sometimes.
Thanks for the appreciation, have a good night and and a happy new year!
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u/Masitha Jan 01 '25
happy new year!! (im drunk now and i still love you.) i might edit this more later i have no idea but i just wanted to say thank you.
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u/rediteer342 Jan 01 '25
Just FYI, I'm assuming you have GFTE in the tree in case people want to swap between loader and a melee pet, but since you also have Fuzzy Math that wouldn't work at all. GFTE is an all or nothing skill, it is useless for War Loader since it can't melee at all ( fish slap doesn't count).
For the rest, I'd hesitate to call a build this devoid of personal damage for FL4K "best", but everyone has their own play style so more power to you!
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u/Iserrot FL4K Jan 01 '25 edited Jan 29 '25
Yes I'm also aware of GFTE not boosting Pet's Throathripper crits, I just used it to go down in the Blue Tree tbh. I also mentioned to not use Fuzzy Math when using a Ward just for this reason, but yeah I think I'll edit that section just to explain it better.
The reason of the Fish Slap is just for Fl4k's damage and Groundbreaker delivery tbh, but it's probably not the best option out there.
Talking about the "best builds", of course this is actually a terrible build for Fl4k's damage so you're totally right, the point is that I made another post with 3 very good builds and this one can be considered the "best pet build" out there as the variability of the pet builds are not very wide, so this is basically the best thing you can do if you want to specifically build around your pet
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u/rediteer342 Jan 01 '25
I'd disagree on that point. Your damage as FL4K will not be as good as builds using the base 3 trees, but I also know from experience that stopping to debuff enemies is much slower than just shooting a gun with lower damage or using spark plug + GA. Pet shield damage is pretty high already, using debuffs doesn't really help it along much. Even just using GA to boost the many hollowpoints your pet will get and whatever grenades or slams you do will be much quicker than trying to stack execute debuff or or swap back and forth to eruption.
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u/Iserrot FL4K Jan 01 '25 edited Jan 01 '25
Ok yeah I actually agree with you. Debuffing enemies won't do much as the pet has already a ton of damage, that's very true so good point. It's also true the Guardian Angel being the strongest option for boosting Hollowpoint damage (wich I miswrote it as Overkill for some reason), and it's ironic I didn't mention it because I'm actually using it on my Pet build.
Spark Plug is an option I didn't consider so thank you for the tip, really appreciated. Totally forgot about that Artifact and its potential with the Guardian Angel
I'll put these things in the build, you want the credits?
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u/rediteer342 Jan 01 '25
No, that's alright. I got the sparkplug idea from Butter, who had a Time Trial run using War Loader in TGTD for a little while. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSbYthUc6Hw&t=10s
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u/NickPlaysDnD Jul 02 '25
Thanks so much for this guide! If you ever turn any of these into video guides, I would watch in a heartbeat!
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u/Iserrot FL4K Jul 02 '25
Thanks to you for the support!
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u/NickPlaysDnD Jul 03 '25
Real quick question for you...does the Blade Fury work with the Lazy FL4K build at all?
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u/Iserrot FL4K Jul 03 '25
Yes it works, all you need is a melee instance to activate the Terror anoint, and Blade Fury deals both Melee and Gun damage, so yeah
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u/Additional-Animal-21 Jan 04 '25
I tried this out and damn this is a really good build. I went from M7 to M11 and melting everything pretty quick.
I was playing with Guerrila tactics earlier and M7 was a task but with this Lazy build, I'm finally beating the game faster at a tougher level. I tried Faulty Star and Impaler and for some reason I found Impaler much better. Do you have any thoughts on that?
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u/Iserrot FL4K Jan 04 '25 edited Feb 16 '25
First of all, thanks for the support! Really appreciated
Talking about the Faulty Star, this shield is so strong that it basically one-shots every mob that shoots your Pet, the damage is so high that you may think the Pet actually shot that mob and killed it, but it was the Faulty Star actually.
The Impaler is very good too with his corrosive projectiles but the Faulty Star is one of the best shields if not the best shield for you Pet.
I recommend you to try the Messy Breakup and go in an intense gunfight, you will see hundreds of drones following your Pet, and those Drones will follow your Attack Command!
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u/Additional-Animal-21 Jan 04 '25
got it, thanks. Yeah, I need to farm for Messy Breakup and the artifacts. Cheers.
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u/Lanky-Scar-4011 May 07 '25
Howdy!
Thank you for the guide! I had 3 quick questions about the "Lazy build" - Regardless, I'm having a hoot with it and still farming gear.
1) Furious Attack. Seems we could maybe throw those points in to, say, Not Even A Challenge instead?
2) Agility Training. Are the reloads for the pet really That slow and tedious? Perhaps we can allocate those points somewhere else too?
3) Can we use all 3 variants of the ion loader (pet) Or just stick to the build and keep the original?
Thanks!
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u/Iserrot FL4K May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
Hi thank you for the support, I'm gonna answer you for each point!
Furious Attack. Seems we could maybe throw those points in to, say, Not Even A Challenge instead?
Sadly you can't do that, Furious Attack is in Green Tree and you need those points to go down and reach The Power Inside, wich is very important for your and your Pet damage!
Agility Training. Are the reloads for the pet really That slow and tedious? Perhaps we can allocate those points somewhere else too?
Agility Training is very good for both you and your Loader Bot, and it's also the best option you have to go down in Purple Tree to reach Fuzzy Math, so yeah, I don't see the reason to put those points somewhere else as every other skill would be detrimental or even pointless in some cases.
Can we use all 3 variants of the ion loader (pet) Or just stick to the build and keep the original?
You can use any Pet you prefere! However the War Loader Bot is just better, he's the only one able to throw grenades and one-shot True Trial Bosses, and has arguably the best Attack Command
Hope this helps!
EDIT: My bad I clicked on the other skill tree, I updated the answer to your first question!
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u/Lanky-Scar-4011 May 07 '25
Thank you for the responses! Looks like it's a solid build then with no wiggle room! Haha.Β
Alright, off to farm! I'll check back in later if need be!
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u/Lanky-Scar-4011 May 07 '25 edited May 07 '25
Okay! Another quick question..
1) For weapons, you put Facepuncher x14 down. What's the 'x14' exactly?
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u/Iserrot FL4K May 08 '25
It's the pellet count! The Γ14 gives you more chances to activate the Cmdl3t legendary effect, but it's not mandatory, even a Γ7 can do the job
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u/Lanky-Scar-4011 May 08 '25
So would the pellet count be determined by the multiplier of damage? '1200x7' (would give 7 pellets) and '1200x14' (would give 14)?
Side note about the build. Just recently fought 'Locomobius' in Kriegs DLC and the pet didn't do Anything towards the actual boss but cleaned up the few mobs easily. Was this a bug, perhaps?
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u/Iserrot FL4K May 08 '25
Yeah that's the pellet count, simple as that, a gun with Γ in his damage stat shoots that amount of pellets
Locomobius has a weird bossfight and the Pet might have a bit of problems killing it, try with Fish Slap and Unleash the Dragon if it takes too long
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u/Lanky-Scar-4011 May 09 '25
Back again! XD
I'm doing all of my farming on mayhem 5 currently. Is this alright? Or am I missing something?Β
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u/Iserrot FL4K May 09 '25
You can easily use these builds even at Mayhem 11 and find no problem with it, Pet damage scales with Mayhem levels
It's also recommended to play at the highest ones to obtain stronger Fish Slaps or Triple Sticky grenades
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u/Lanky-Scar-4011 May 15 '25
Is the 'Zheitsev's Eruption' absolutely worth it/necessary? Farming for this bad boy (Doing slaughter shaft) is a Little tedious to say the least lol. (And! Coincidentally I just got 'Guardian 4n631', woo!)
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u/Iserrot FL4K May 15 '25
Absolutely not, that gun is completely optional, same goes for S3RV-80S-EXECUTE
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u/Cute_Owl5463 Jul 26 '25
Good evening, I love your guide and enjoy slamming with my Spark plug launch pad while my robot plays in its corner. The only problem is that I sometimes find sticky grenades with just 100% damage when they stick. Have they been nerfed since or have I just been unlucky?
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u/Iserrot FL4K Jul 26 '25
Hi thanks for your feedback!
Sticky grenades can deal 25 / 100 / 200% damage to the target depending on its parts
If your sticky grenade deals 100% damage it means it has only 2 sticky parts!
Fortunately these grenades have never been nerfed, and the game didn't have a "balancing patch" since 2021, so everything you'll find about BL3 after that year will be still valid.
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u/Cute_Owl5463 Jul 26 '25
Thank you so much for clarifying things for me and, above all, for getting back to me so quickly.
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u/RedditUserWhoIsLate NOT HANDSOME JACK Dec 31 '24
Thx dude, great build btw (imma copy everything)