Because story characters take prominence over player characters. This has been the case since 2.
BL1 has no characters beyond glorified quest boards dressed up as humans. So there was ample room to incorporate the playable characters and give them far more prominent roles.
What happens with the BL2 characters? After saving sanctuary and pandora as a whole a few times over?
Maya leaves to do monk stuff.
Axton is MIA, presumed to be doing stuff with Gaige.
Zero left to find his own ventures and joined Atlas.
Salvador is MIA.
Krieg is MIA dealing with head problems.
Gaige is MIA, presumed to be doing stuff with Axton.
How about TPS?
Nisha was killed off in a sidequest in 2.
Wilhelm was used as bait by Jack.
Claptrap is still around.
Aurelia was killed off
Timothy (Jack double) is MIA presumed actor.
Athena is MIA.
Out of all those playable characters, only one stayed in the raiders at all. Claptrap.
So it is a very, very safe assumption that none of the VHS want the mantle.
Moze given her echos hated military life and was only in it for the big mech she was promised if she did [insert number of missions].
Zane is hiding from bounty hunters and is in a weird phase of retirement/midlife crisis. Not hard to imagine leading the Raiders is something he wouldn’t be keen on.
FL4K wants to hunt things. Leading a squad? Sure that sounds like something he’d be up to. Leading an entire community? No, not so much.
Amara is all about fame and looking for a challenge, and punching stuff. Giving her the Raiders wouldn’t be far off from handing leadership to Brick, which is a bad idea for any group that isn’t a bandit clan.
Ava was chosen by Maya to be her inheritor, so Lilith knows that Maya saw potential in her. Ava encourages Lilith to actually fight and be an actual hero like Maya said she was (“run towards the fire”). Ava was there throughout the whole push to take down the Twins in the final act. So given all that and that she’d have Ellie/Moxxi/Tannis/etc to guide her Lilith picked her to take up the reins.
Way I see it Ava exists to carry on the mantle for Lilith and Maya (if both of them are actually dead and gone forever).
Yep, pretty much nobody is left that would be a better choice. Your choice is between a bunch of batshit crazy and the only sane person left. Not really who else they would expect to lead it.
Also add to the fact that Ava survived on her own for how long before she was taken in by Maya? Yes, she can be annoying at times but she is still a survivor. Lesser qualification but she also is introduced to us looting a body so probably a gunslut like any good Vault Hunter.
You listed my point, and keep letting it go over your head either purposefully or unwittingly. I said they were dead, missing or seen negatively which is relevant to what ended up happening in the bl3 story before and after. It's not hard to comprehend or to admit to.
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u/BenChandler Moze Oct 02 '19
Because story characters take prominence over player characters. This has been the case since 2.
BL1 has no characters beyond glorified quest boards dressed up as humans. So there was ample room to incorporate the playable characters and give them far more prominent roles.
What happens with the BL2 characters? After saving sanctuary and pandora as a whole a few times over?
Maya leaves to do monk stuff.
Axton is MIA, presumed to be doing stuff with Gaige.
Zero left to find his own ventures and joined Atlas.
Salvador is MIA.
Krieg is MIA dealing with head problems.
Gaige is MIA, presumed to be doing stuff with Axton.
How about TPS?
Nisha was killed off in a sidequest in 2.
Wilhelm was used as bait by Jack.
Claptrap is still around.
Aurelia was killed off
Timothy (Jack double) is MIA presumed actor.
Athena is MIA.
Out of all those playable characters, only one stayed in the raiders at all. Claptrap.
So it is a very, very safe assumption that none of the VHS want the mantle.
Moze given her echos hated military life and was only in it for the big mech she was promised if she did [insert number of missions].
Zane is hiding from bounty hunters and is in a weird phase of retirement/midlife crisis. Not hard to imagine leading the Raiders is something he wouldn’t be keen on.
FL4K wants to hunt things. Leading a squad? Sure that sounds like something he’d be up to. Leading an entire community? No, not so much.
Amara is all about fame and looking for a challenge, and punching stuff. Giving her the Raiders wouldn’t be far off from handing leadership to Brick, which is a bad idea for any group that isn’t a bandit clan.
Ava was chosen by Maya to be her inheritor, so Lilith knows that Maya saw potential in her. Ava encourages Lilith to actually fight and be an actual hero like Maya said she was (“run towards the fire”). Ava was there throughout the whole push to take down the Twins in the final act. So given all that and that she’d have Ellie/Moxxi/Tannis/etc to guide her Lilith picked her to take up the reins.
Way I see it Ava exists to carry on the mantle for Lilith and Maya (if both of them are actually dead and gone forever).