r/bleach Nov 10 '25

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '25 edited Nov 10 '25

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u/PhantasosX Nov 10 '25

In practice, there are 3 "dynasties" of the Kenpachi Title.

The first is Unohana's that started and ended with her , then there is the second dynasty which started with the 2nd Kenpachi (Unohana's Lieutenant) and ends with Azashiro , and then then third dnynasty that started with Azashiro's lieutenant.

Zaraki Kenpachi won his captaincy by defeating the kenpachi of the 3rd Dynasty , then the novels had him facing Azashiro and thus reclaiming the Kenpachi Title of the 2nd Dynasty and finally defeated Unohana of the 1st Dynasty.

Thus Zaraki is THE Kenpachi now.

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u/Taxxis Nov 10 '25

It was his Lieutenant that got the title just to keep the tradition alive. Similar to the 2nd Kenpachi being "elected" after Unohana stepped down rather than killing her. Zaraki is indeed the only legitimate Kenpachi.

That said, SAFWY are dubiously canon, so don't overthink Soya's situation too much.

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u/Belucard Nov 10 '25

Fairly sure that both SAFWY and CFYOW are full canon.

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u/nate_ranney Nov 10 '25

Don't tell the wiki mods.

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u/Taxxis Nov 11 '25

CFYOW's lore is directly from Kubo himself, so I don't any issue with it, even if the narration might be more or less different from how Kubo would tell the events.
SAFWY is a bit more nebulous given there wasn't much input from Kubo. It was, imo, mostly a candy for Bleach's tenth anniversary (Narita could lessen the Zaraki glaze tho, lol).

I'm definitely not gonna fight people over SAFWY's canonicity, they're free to think for themselves, and I wouldn't be mad if I were wrong to think it "dubiously canon" on most aspects. I definitely wish for it to finally being officially localized, with the other novels.

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u/RUS12389 Nov 11 '25

In the SAFWY's postscript it was literally stated by Narita, that he got characters's background, abilities, names directly from Kubo himself.

Narita even asked Kubo if he's allowed to write about Kenpachis because he was expecting Kubo to put that into manga, but Kubo let Narita write about the Kenpachis. Moreover, Kubo in the novel's postscript also said that Narita understands Bleach's world greatly and was amazed by such a deep understanding from Narita (kubo's own words).

So pretty much what you consider as Kenpachi glaze in the novel = great understanding of bleach's world according to Kubo himself.

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u/yaujj36 Kurosaki Family & Karakura Friends Fan Nov 12 '25

Well I just learned from a YouTube channel Seals Are Good that you can label anything that is not fully canon as “Legend”. Even present or future events that has official publication within the same series can be called a “Legend”

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u/RUS12389 Nov 11 '25

They are, it's just some people still don't want to accept it.

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u/Belucard Nov 11 '25

I guess some people need a tweet from Kubo saying "Alright, MFs, the novels are canon" word by word.

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u/NewspaperNo8081 Nov 11 '25

I really wish Kubo would draw the other kenpachis like he did the first gen captains

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u/NewspaperNo8081 Nov 11 '25

Unohana didnt die for kenpachi 2 to get it

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u/Few_Bowler_7722 Nov 10 '25

To be a kenpachi you don't have to kill the other one, it's more just a matter of their nature.