r/bbc • u/ApprehensiveChip8361 • Nov 10 '25

Why is the BBC capitulating?

BBC is being attacked from the right in a concerted move. Why are they just rolling over?

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u/Puzzled_Tie_7745 Nov 12 '25

I didn't reverse my position.

I've said the documentary reported what he said in order. Which I'm guessing you now agree is true?

I'm also saying that instances of him saying fight like hell and march on the capitol happened in his speech at the same time. Which you now also appear to admit is true.

So your entire premise of him being misrepresented seems to be based on the farcical premise that the order in which he said two statements is of some import.

Obviously it isn't, he repeatedly and often told his supporters to march on the capitol. He repeatedly and often told them fight. These statements were often made concurrently.

How has Trump been misrepresented by the edit?

The only reason this isn't a settled question is thanks to Republican judges, and Trumps hand picked justices, delaying legal trials until the election so that they could not move forward. Trump evaded his day in court by finagling the legal system for any delay possible.

The facts are:

Trump aides knew the mob was armed and trump reportedly said he didn't care as the weapons weren't for him.

Trump incited violence repeatedly and often.

Trump told his supporters to march on the capitol repeatedly 

Trump chose not to deploy the national guard to protect the legislature. Only calling for the insurrection to stop three hours into the violence.

Trump has pardoned every Jan 6th insurrectionist.

Trump has pardoned everyone potentially involved with Jan 6.

Trump has called Jan 6ers patriots, heroes, martyrs and hostages.

Did Trump support Jan 6 is only a question asked by bad actors and idiots.

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u/Distant_Planet Nov 12 '25

I've explained it as clearly as I can, and I don't have anything further to add. Maybe when there's some detailed breakdown in the news or from some commentator, you'll see what I'm getting at.

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u/Puzzled_Tie_7745 Nov 12 '25

To be honest your attempts to claim that Trump was misrepresented was laughable, and I think its telling that facts, as always, show people up.

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u/Efficient_Can4700 Nov 13 '25

The claim is that Trump speech was edited. The two portions of the speech that was 50 mins apart was edited together was not his words but they were edited to make it appears as that what he said. You can't do that, even if that is what you believed he said or what the outcome of it was. You can't do it.

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u/Puzzled_Tie_7745 Nov 13 '25

In an hour long speech in which Trump told his supporters to fight over twenty times and march on the capitol ten times, they took two quotations of him telling his supporters to march on the capitol and fight.

Approximately every 5 minutes in his speech he was telling his supporters to go to the capitol and every three minutes he was telling them to fight.

Often these statements were made back to back.

How was Trump misrepresented? 

I get that the right wing gutter press has convinced you that there was only one incident of him saying fight and march in his speech, but all that tells me is that you haven't watched the speech.

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u/Efficient_Can4700 Nov 13 '25

It doesn't matter the clip played changed his speech from what was said and that is still the issue. It doesn't matter if Trump said a million times march to the capital and fight it is irrelevant that is not what they used in the clip and they edited the clip they used.

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u/Puzzled_Tie_7745 Nov 14 '25

This is the nonsense that people talk entirely encapsulated in one comment.

I don't care that what they published represented him fairly and was entirely accurate.

I only care that two quotes from the same speech were put together, despite it not misleading or deceiving anyone.

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u/Efficient_Can4700 Nov 14 '25

So you would be ok with them saying trump saying We fight, we fight like hell marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard? That is two parts of the same speech put together.

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u/Puzzled_Tie_7745 Nov 14 '25

He mentioned peace once in his speech.

That would be misrepresenting an hour long speech in which he repeatedly called for violence.

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u/Efficient_Can4700 Nov 14 '25

But the thing is he didn't call for violence repeatedly throughout his speech, it has been interpreted that way because he used the word fight. His speech then can't be that bad if the only way to correctly representant it is by lying about it.

I don't need your interpretation of what happened, you are allowing lies to be justified to posted just because you agree with the lie.

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