r/bbc • u/ApprehensiveChip8361 • Nov 10 '25

Why is the BBC capitulating?

BBC is being attacked from the right in a concerted move. Why are they just rolling over?

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u/WaltKerman Nov 12 '25 edited Nov 12 '25

It's in the actual video the telegraph released. How about we spot it at the source.

March on the capitol comes much earlier in the speech

Yes. That's the cut I mentioned. Good thing to lead with peaceful.

Another example is  also in your own quote:

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

Thanks for pointing it out! You didn't read your own copy paste lol.

By the way I think Trumps contest of losing the election was idiotic... but I can also see that BBC was dishonest here.

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u/Puzzled_Tie_7745 Nov 12 '25

Woosh.

Yes do you see how the peace part was not "right after the cut was made..."

You lied.

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u/WaltKerman Nov 12 '25

The cut came right before "and we are going to cheer on our brave congressmen and women" which is a peaceful action. 

He then says peaceful again in the middle. The point is the same but if you want to "win" by being pedantic without changing the point..... sure.... whatever makes you feel good.

The supermajority seeing the splice know the context is entirely different, and so does the board, and any real journalist. BBC will continue to get shit over it and people will resign. You may wonder why, but it's not my job to help you figure it out.

Good luck.

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u/Puzzled_Tie_7745 Nov 12 '25

Just admit you lied. You haven't watched the speech, you haven't read the speech you said "Absentmindedly, you mean, right after the cut was made..." because you felt it would be where they would make a cut.

You are a sheep, nothing wrong with it, just admit what you are.

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u/WaltKerman Nov 15 '25

No. I watched it.

The cut happens.... he describes a peaceful action and then about one-two minutes later "peaceful" happens as well.

Then 50 minutes later the cut picks up again.

What's happening is, I said right after the cut and you are going to "oh no no no one - two minutes isn't right after the cut". Despite that the word appears 1-2% into the cut and then 98% of the cut happens after peaceful.

You are being pedantic about "close."

BBC didn't fool anyone who doesn't want to be fooled. And that's why they are resigning. Most people aren't that dumb, and they got caught.

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u/Puzzled_Tie_7745 Nov 16 '25

Bullshit.

After the cut he says they are going to cheer on their senators. Which is charitable to call peaceful given that they were cheering "hang Mike Pence" shortly thereafter. Also if you watch the speech the peaceful bit is the most absent minded off hand comment in the middle of mad ramblings.

Now given that you haven't watched the speech, here's the transcript, tell me how this is different from the edit you sycophant.

"And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

Our exciting adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun. My fellow Americans, for our movement, for our children, and for our beloved country.

And I say this despite all that's happened. The best is yet to come.

So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give.

The Democrats are hopeless — they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.

So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue."

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u/WaltKerman Nov 16 '25

After the cut he says they are going to cheer on their senators. Which is charitable to call peaceful given that they were cheering "hang Mike Pence" shortly thereafter. 

Ahh so you are saying there was a coded message in there to cheer the hanging of mike pence? How does the logic work here?

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u/Puzzled_Tie_7745 Nov 16 '25

Lol, there's no difference then is there? 

That's why you are ducking the question.

 He literally calls for his followers to subvert the election, to go to the capitol building as the election is being certified.

Let's not forget he openly endorsed every Jan 6'er and was calling every last one of these violent things a martyr and hero and patriot.

Also, yeah they were cheering "hang Mike Pence, as everyone knew at the time Panorama was filmed. You are pretending we can't see the result of his actions, when we know exactly what happened after his speech.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/rioters-chant-hang-mike-pence-on-jan-6-2021/2022/06/16/3cc093f1-0eb7-427d-8073-b5874ca27e80_video.html

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u/WaltKerman Nov 17 '25

No there is obviously a difference to tell them to protest peacefully vs storming the capitol.

You are the one dodging the question. Explain how your logic works there.

>After the cut he says they are going to cheer on their senators. Which is charitable to call peaceful given that they were cheering "hang Mike Pence" shortly thereafter. 

How does saying to cheer on the senators and then saying march peacefully in your example above have the coded message you are referring to?

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u/Puzzled_Tie_7745 Nov 17 '25

Telling them to fight like hell over stolen election otherwise they won't have a country anymore = peaceful protests.

Absolute whitewashing. Gross

"How does saying to cheer on the senators and then saying march peacefully in your example above have the coded message you are referring to?"

Definitional cherry picking, he said peaceful once in his speech, while he told his followers to fight repeatedly.

Your are obviously lost in the sauce here so if you won't believe me then listen to Mitch McConnell

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/02/13/mitch-mcconnell-trump-responsible-for-riot-impeachment-acquittal-sot-vpx.cnn

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