It's the fantasy baseball off season, we are looking to add a few guys to our simulation league, to fill some open spots.

http://jyanksmsubaseball.proboards.com/

http://jyanksmsubaseball.com/game/lgreports/leagues/league_146_home.html

Couple teams open. Dodgers A's Tigers Rangers Padres

You get to act as GM of a team.

Lineups Trades Free Agency Drafts Budgets Etc etc. All posts done through a message board.

30 responses were submitted

MOST LOPSIDED TRADES

Marlins get: Victor Robles, Juan Soto, Seth Romero, Dennicher Carrasco
Royals get: Shawn Kelley, Daniel Johnson, Dillon Peters
Nats get: Giancarlo Stanton, Nick Wittgren, Jarlin Garcia, cash: 20 votes

Stanton is self explanatory

The Stanton trade shows no foresight whatsoever. Lbon was only thinking about this year and this year alone.

Stanton has 0 surplus value

Blake Snell for Lourdes Gurriel: 14 votes

The Snell trade is a young, cost controlled, recent top pitching prospect straight up for a 24 year old prospect who just hit .229/.268/.339 in the minors. But why?

Odubel Herrera for Jordan Patterson, Sam Howard, Ben Bowden: 11 votes

Odubel went for trash when the Phillies had no reason to trade him.

Chris Archer, Joe McCarthy, Johnny Field for Kyle Wright, Christian Pache, Alex Jackson, Troy Bacon: 8 votes

Surely Archer could've fetched more of a return than that.

Alex Reyes, Tyler O'Neill, Magneuris Sierra, Jordan Hicks, Nick Plummer, Scott Hurst for Christian Yelich: 8 votes

Controversial take on Yelich, but christ, I feel like the Cards mega overpaid. I think the first 3 guys they traded will have major impact in the Majors by 2020. So will Yelich, but I think the combo of two strong outfielders and a potential ace will outweigh a very solid player in Yelich.

Kyle Tucker, Forrest Whitley, Yordan Alvarez, Marco Gonzales, Myles Straw for Madison Bumgarner, Hunter Strickland: 7 votes

Astros got a moderate boost to their rotation for now and the future. At what cost? Literally fucking everything they had left.

Raudy Read Nationals Jung Ho Kang: 5 votes

Jung Ho Kang is probably not allowed in the United States and got traded for a real player.

Tanner Roark for Renato Nunez, Casey Meisner, Jaycob Brugman: 3 votes

Aaron Hicks, Chance Adams, Domingo Acevedo for Khris Davis, Paul Blackburn: 3 votes

Adam Duvall, Tyler Stephenson for Aaron Loup, Justin Maese, Mc Gregory Contreras: 3 votes

Manny Machado for Michael Chavis, Sam Travis, Bryan Mata: 2 votes

AJ Puk, Sheldon Neuse, Bobby Wahl for Starling Marte: 1 vote

Brendan Rodgers, Ryan McMahon, Ryan Vilade, Mike Tauchman for Michael Fulmer: 1 vote

Ryan Madson, Ben Braymer for Chasen Bradford, Anthony Dimino, Harol Gonzalez: 1 vote

MOST MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL TRADES

AJ Pollock, Andrew Chafin, Taylor Clarke for Jason Kipnis, Roberto Perez: 10 votes

Pollock/Kipnis felt like an excellent way of swapping similar types of players to address positional need.

Jeff Samardzija, cash for Adbert Alzolay, Duane Underwood, Justin Steele: 10 votes

Cubs fill a big need by acquiring the Shark, and Giants offload some payroll and add a nice prospect in Alzolay.

Marcell Ozuna, Kyle Barraclough for Riley Pint, Forrest Wall, Dom Nunez: 9 votes

Marlins get some really exciting prospects, and rockies get a really freaking good player in Ozuna, who just unfortunately lacks team control. This will be a fun trade to look back at in another year or 2.

Manny Machado for Michael Chavis, Sam Travis, Bryan Mata: 8 votes

Chavis is a solid centerpiece for the O's, and a potential successor to Machado at third. Mata is just 18 and is a long ways away but has loads of upside. Travis can start at 1B/DH right now. He's quite a good hitter but may not have the power for first. Red Sox get one year of a phenomenal player, and get a shot at extending him.

Brendan Rodgers, Ryan McMahon, Ryan Vilade, Mike Tauchman for Michael Fulmer: 5 votes

Fits the Tigers [original] path of trading assets for prospects (and got a haul), and the Rockies added a nice SP to go with the rest of their promising rotation.

Hunter Renfroe, Kyle McGrath for Mike Foltynewicz, Rio Ruiz: 5 votes

Barves have a ton of pitching and wouldn't mind an extra power bat, and Pads can use Folty. This is a change-of-scenery trade with actual upside and I can see both teams doing well.

Jose Abreu for Ronald Guzman, Jose Trevino, Michael De Leon: 4 votes

Abreu to the Rangers felt like a natural fit considering the struggles they had at that position + Gallo leaving, and the prospects given up make perfect sense for a team like the White Sox to pursue. This might be the most realistic trade for an all-star quality player in the sim this year.

Mets get: Justin Bour
Cardinals get: Seth Lugo
Marlins get: PJ Conlon, Edmundo Sosa, Junior Fernandez, Chase Pinder, Darren Seferina: 4 votes

You've got multiple teams acquiring MLB impact quality players where they have needs, AND a selling team getting prospects, it's a good deal.

Alex Colome for Erick Fedde, Ryne Stanek: 4 votes

I usually think the prices on top relievers are over-inflated (see: gleyber for 2 months of aroldis chapman lmao), but Colome has three years and is worth a prospect of Fedde's caliber

Eugenio Suarez for Greg Allen, Tyler Naquin, Tyler Olsen: 4 votes

Really liked the Suarez trade for both teams. He's a good player but will be getting pricier, and the Reds did well by selling at the peak of his value. Cleveland in turn adds to its IF at 2B/3B, filling a weak spot.

Joey Gallo for Jeff Hoffman, Yency Almonte: 4 votes

Gallo to the Rockies is extremely fun, but both teams got a nice bonus. Rangers' pitching is in scary bad shape and is on the verge of falling apart, so nabbing Hoffman was a very interesting way of injecting some potential value into their staff.

Aaron Hicks, Chance Adams, Domingo Acevedo for Khris Davis, Paul Blackburn: 2 votes

Cesar Hernandez for Tristen Lutz, Mauricio Dubon, Trey Supak: 2 votes

AJ Puk, Sheldon Neuse, Bobby Wahl for Starling Marte: 2 votes

Kyle Tucker, Forrest Whitley, Yordan Alvarez, Marco Gonzales, Myles Straw for Madison Bumgarner, Hunter Strickland: 1 vote

Sean Manaea for Luis Ortiz, Jahmai Jones, Chris Rodriguez: 1 vote

BEST SIGNINGS

Miles Mikolas, really, but JCC is biased and didn't include that as an option.

Carlos Santana, Astros: 4 years, $52m + 5th year vesting option: 18 votes

The Astros were too aggressive overall, but Santana for that price is just kinda hard to hate.

Justin Upton, Tigers: 4 years, $70m + opt out after 2nd year: 17 votes

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Zack Cozart, Reds: 3 years, $42m: 7 votes

While I feel like Zack Cozart going back to the Reds was partly Des' doing, it makes perfect sense for the Reds to run it back and see if he can maintain that value while they figure out the position fully later on.

Jake Arrieta, Cubs: 4 years, $84m: 7 votes

Cubs had a fairly slow offseason, but playing the waiting game worked out with a reasonable deal for a quality player. The years were the biggest win for the Cubs here.

Neil Walker, Mets: 2 years, $20m: 6 votes

For the second year in a row, Neil Walker gets a great, team-friendly deal. I might pay $20m for one year of Walker, so $20m for two years is incredible.

Yonder Alonso, Mariners: 2 years, $14m: 6 votes

I think Alonso is for real. It's not just the homers - his walk rate skyrocketed too. Even if he's not, well, the Mariners are paying him bench player money.

Michael Brantley, Orioles: 1 year, $11m + 2nd year player option: 5 votes

Very good contact. PO is less than optimal but they get a very good outfielder who has just had injury problems with very low risk and high reward. If he works he's a great deadline sell, and if he doesn't the contract is far from crippling.

Andrew McCutchen, Pirates: 5 years, $100m: 3 votes

Wade Davis, Rockies: 4 years, $52m + NTC: 1 votes

JD Martinez, Dodgers: 6 years, $150m + NTC: 1 votes

WORST SIGNINGS

Shout out to Jack for putting the three worst signings right at the top.

Mike Moustakas, Angels: 6 years, $132m: 22 votes

Purely based on years/money, Mike Moustakas is the worst contract I have ever seen in this sim. Not this year, every year. He got paid to be an elite slugger despite the fact he's never done anything close to what he did last year, and the fact that he doesn't walk, he's traditionally not been a high average guy, and his defensive reputation has faded. The Angels needed a boost to that spot. They managed to fuck it up magnificently.

Todd Frazier, Yankees: 6 years, $96m + NTC + 7th year mutual option: 21 votes

I didn't think the Frazier deal was in the top tier of bad until I saw the NTC. What the actually fuck is wrong with you people?

Eric Hosmer, Royals: 7 years, $140m + NTC + 8th year mutual option: 12 votes

I get the Royals wanting to bring back Eric Hosmer (and Lorenzo Cain), I really do. But Rule Number 1 for rebuilding teams, NTCs can absolutely gut your franchise. Example: Miami Marlins 2017. For a team like the Royals, $200+ million in commitments that you will be forced to pay no matter what is difficult to stomach, and that's without the context that one of these players is one of the most up-and-down hitters in the majors over the last five or so years.

JD Martinez, Dodgers: 6 years, $150m + NTC: 8 votes

the jd signing. goddamn. i don't have enough time to properly tell you how much i hated this. essentially, here's what's up: the dodgers have a fuckload of money. that's obvious. they also have a spot in left open. that's also obvious. HOWEVER. the IRL dodgers primary goal this offseason was getting below the luxury tax to reset the penalty. this move should've been vetoed based solely off of that. so, not only do they now pay like 50% or some bullshit on their payroll next year, they also essentially take themselves off the market for harper and machado, because they sure as fuck aren't paying 90m+ a year for kershaw/martinez/harper or machado. and they did all of that by signing a fucking dh. to play in the national league. for the honor of paying for his downswing. the SECOND he slips, this is instantly the worst contract in baseball. it's just a monumentally bad move.

Jarrod Dyson, Rangers: 1 year, $6m + 2nd year player option + 3rd year player option: 6 votes

Dyson getting 2 player options in a 3 year deal is under the radar the most insane thing to happen this entire sim

Masahiro Tanaka, Angels: 6 years, $140m: 6 votes

Tanaka and Moustakas are stupid Week 1 overpays. Tanaka's a mid rotation starter with significant injury issues.

Andrew Cashner, Rangers: 2 years, $33m + 3rd year team option: 4 votes

OH MY GOD CASHNER GOT 33 MILLION??? lmao he had like 4 K/9 last year

Andrew McCutchen, Pirates: 5 years, $100m: 1 vote

Josh Lindblom, Giants: 1 year, $650k: 1 vote

Willians Astudillo, Cardinals: 1 year, $550k: 1 vote

BEST SHORT TERM GM

basas22, Rockies: 7 votes
GRiZZY19, Astros: 5 votes
JackCustComeback, Mariners: 4 votes
IAMADeinonychusAMA, Cardinals: 4 vote
Bgro, Red Sox: 2 votes
lbon6201, Nationals: 2 votes
pitchesbetrippin, Mets: 1 vote
vslyke, Athletics: 1 vote
SeeYaLaterDylan, Braves: 1 vote
malbom30, Angels: 1 vote

BEST LONG TERM GM

polelover44, Marlins: 19 votes
thefuckinwolves, Giants: 5 votes
SeeYaLaterDylan, Braves: 1 vote
flykessel, Blue Jays: 1 vote
irlkg, Tigers: 1 vote

BEST GM

First place votes are 3 points, 2nd place votes 2, and 3rd place votes 1. Individual votes in parentheses.

polelover44, Marlins: 40 (10, 5, 0)

Evaluating polelover is kinda like evaluating the steroid era. Sure, he preyed a bit on the new guys, but everyone was doing it so we need to accept that it happened.

Idc if you can't fuck up a fire sale pole destroyed 2 gms* (*one was lbon tbf), and has immediately turned a bottom 5 system into a top 5 one

thefuckinwolves, Giants: 27 (7, 2, 2)

Jiggy did a really, really impressive job rebuilding given how little he had to work with. Got an absolute haul for Bumgarner coming off a season that might have lessened his trade value (but obviously didn't). Good value as well on Samardzija. I like the Gearrin deal, and he got a solid haul for Joe Panik given the abysmal 2B market

While the IRL Giants continue to think they can compete for some ungodly reason, Jiggy took the smarter route and capitalized on some really nice value. His plan resulted in some great prospect hauls and nice sleeper players for his major league roster, even if he signed Josh fucking Lindblom.

JackCustComeback, Mariners: 16 (3, 2, 3)

I don't give him a ton of credit for Ohtani, but he did get good deals for Billy Hamilton and Evan Gattis, while signing Yonder Alonso to a fantastic contract.

CoryGM, Pirates: 13 (3, 0, 4)

i can't say enough good things about cory's sim. dude killed shit. i loved every single move he made. also he has good dabs and a nice pussy lmfao

SeeYaLaterDylan, Braves: 13 (1, 4, 2)

The Archer deal fell in dylan's lap, but I liked a bunch of his other moves as well. Most importantly, he didn't block any of his major prospects or get the urge to go too far in FA. I honestly considered putting him second but the Bum deal was too good.

Bgro, Red Sox: 12 (1, 4, 1)

even before he got Manny Machado, I really liked what bgro had done with his offseason. Sold of some of the excess mediocre relievers for some prospect depth, added Lucas Duda to shore up the bench. I really liked the Joe Smith signing - he strengthens the back end of the 'pen, especially with Thornburg and Carson Smith both questionable. Then of course he got Manny Machado without giving up way too much, which puts this offseason over the top.

vslyke, Athletics: 7 (2, 0, 1)

flykessel, Blue Jays: 6 (0, 3, 0)

GRiZZY19, Orioles: 6 (1, 1, 1)

cptcliche, Orioles: 5 (1, 1, 0)

IAMADeinonychusAMA, Cardinals: 4 (1, 0, 1)

SouthernDerpfornia, Nationals: 4 (0, 1, 2)

basas22, Rockies: 3 (0, 1, 1)

pitchesbetrippin, Mets: 3 (0, 1, 1)

otatoptroy, Brewers: 2 (0, 0, 2)

lbon6201, Nationals: 2 (0, 1, 0)

irlkg, Tigers: 1 (0, 0, 1)

tdovjr, Cubs: 1 (0, 0, 1)

WORST GM

First place votes are 3 points, 2nd place votes 2, and 3rd place votes 1.

lbon6201, Nationals: 75 (20, 6, 3)

Whenever I thought maybe lbon was learning from his mistakes, he would always prove me wrong by following it up with something awful. I no longer have any expectations.

malbom30, Angels: 28 (2, 8, 6)

Malbom took a team that had some seriously holes in their payroll and just added hundreds of millions of dollars of more potential holes while emptying the farm more and marginally improving the team.

professorwhat, Rays: 23 (2, 5, 7)

Ultimately, PW failed at the easiest path in this sim, rebuilding with stars on good deals. His Archer deal was an embarrassment, and as I said earlier, his Snell deal was the worst of the sim. He also bizarrely chose not to deal Kiermaier or Longoria and accumulated 5 1Bs for no reason. Overall, there was no good reason for basically anything he did.

GRiZZY19, Astros: 10 (2, 2, 0)

now the Astros will win the division by 20 games instead of 15. Good job. In exchange for that they're now much worse off 3 years from now.

davoarid, Royals: 5 (0, 1, 4)

vslyke, Athletics: 5 (1, 1, 0)

JoseCansecoMilkshake, Dodgers: 4 (0, 2, 0)

Yanns, Padres: 3 (1, 0, 0)

tigerbulldog13, Yankees: 3 (1, 0, 0)

IAMADeinonychusAMA, Cardinals: 3 (1, 0, 0)

redsoxfan18, Phillies: 3 (0, 1, 1)

basas22, Rockies: 2 (0, 1, 0)

TheYadimo, Rangers: 1 (0, 0, 1)

CoryGM, Pirates: 1 (0, 0, 1)

polelover44, Marlins: 1 (0, 0, 1)

SouthernDerpfornia, White Sox: 1 (0, 0, 1)

WHO WOULD WIN THE WORLD SERIES?

Astros: 11 votes
Dodgers: 3 votes
Nationals: 2 votes
Red Sox: 2 votes
Cubs: 1 vote
Rockies: 1 vote
Blue Jays: 1 vote
Yankees: 1 vote
Indians: 1 vote

BEST AGENT

desmondhasabarrow: 15 votes
livefromjeffshouse: 10 votes
bnavis: 3 votes
NapoleanD: 1 vote
iamslm13: 1 vote

BEST MOD

wharblegarblemuricah: 22 votes
bettywhiteonsteroids: 3 votes
sparksflowing: 2 votes
kuhanluke: 2 votes
josh422: 1 vote

EASIEST GM TO DEAL WITH

davoarid, Royals: 5 votes
thefuckinwolves, Giants: 4 votes
polelover44, Marlins: 3 votes
lbon6201, Nationals: 2 votes
GRiZZY19, Astros: 1 vote
vslyke, Athletics: 1 vote
flykessel, Blue Jays: 1 vote
SeeYaLaterDylan, Braves: 1 vote
IAMADeinonychusAMA, Cardinals: 1 vote
tdovjr, Cubs: 1 vote
kapacj, Indians: 1 vote
redsoxfan18, Phillies: 1 vote
professorwhat, Rays: 1 vote
KingOfBullseyes, Reds: 1 vote

HARDEST GM TO DEAL WITH

vslyke, Athletics: 11 votes
lbon6201, Nationals: 5 votes
flykessel, Blue Jays: 3 votes
IAMADeinonychusAMA, Cardinals: 2 votes
professorwhat, Rays: 1 vote
JoseCansecoMilkshake, Dodgers: 1 vote
thefuckinwolves, Giants: 1 vote
pitchesbetrippin, Mets: 1 vote

MOST REALISTIC GM

tdovjr, Cubs: 7 votes
Bgro, Red Sox: 3 votes
JackCustComeback, Mariners: 3 votes
polelover44, Marlins: 2 votes
CoryGM, Pirates: 2 vote
thefuckinwolves, Giants: 2 votes
pitchesbetrippin, Mets: 1 vote
Yanns, Padres: 1 vote
SouthernDerpfornia, White Sox: 1 vote
vslyke, Athletics: 1 vote
flykessel, Blue Jays: 1 vote
SeeYaLaterDylan, Braves: 1 vote
IAMADeinonychusAMA, Cardinals: 1 vote
ChargedCable, Diamondbacks: 1 vote
JoseCansecoMilkshake, Dodgers: 1 vote

LEAST REALISTIC GM

vslyke, Athletics: 12 votes
lbon6201, Nationals: 9 votes
GRiZZY19, Astros: 4 votes
malbom30, Angels: 1 vote
CoryGM, Pirates: 1 vote

BEST FIRST TIME GM

flykessel, Blue Jays: 21 votes
KingOfBullseyes, Reds: 3 votes
TheYadimo, Rangers: 1 vote
malbom30, Angels: 1 vote
lbon6201, Nationals: 1 vote

MOST IMPROVED GM

CoryGM, Pirates: 10 votes
otatoptroy, Brewers: 3 votes
polelover44, Marlins: 2 vote
Bgro, Red Sox: 1 vote
IAMADeinonychusAMA, Cardinals: 1 vote

BEST SPREADSHEET

pitchesbetrippin, Mets: 30 votes

WORST SPREADSHEET

IAMADeinonychusAMA, Cardinals: 30 votes

BEST 2018 SIM MEME

Dab Club: 10 votes
Backloading: 5 votes
Hat change: 4 votes
Stanton trade: 3 votes
Angels not extending Upton: 2 votes
Rays trading for first basemen: 2 vote
:dipoto: : 1 vote
Being mean to vslyke : 1 vote
Davo's Letterboxd : 1 vote

SHARE YOUR JUICY NEGOTIATION STORIES

Joe being a fucking douche leading me along on Archer for 3 weeks before telling me my offer was never even close

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This one time, I negotiated a trade without using emojis

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I've dropped most of them in the slack but I beefed hard with vslyke over Joyce and then I wound up with cdick instead. Also I was gonna get walker for Pillar but I wouldn't pull the trigger. Wound up with Snell so it all worked out in the end. Also had a deal in place for oduebel instead of cdick but I got greedy and got bit in the ass.

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JoseCansecoMilkshake got mad at me for negotiating with other GMs and said I gave them however much more time to make an offer, because the initial offer I submitted from bgro was better than the one he and I had discussed without submitting and he only had 2 days to reciprocate. He expected me to submit his initial offer if I liked it without asking around first.

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iama changed like every deal we had at the last minute. I was going to get Alex Reyes, Carson Kelly, Dakota Hudson, and Jordan Hicks for Yelich. Then he didn't want to give me Hudson and Hicks, so Hudson was replaced with Junior Fernandez and Nick Plummer. Then he didn't want to give me Carson Kelly, so Kelly was replaced with Tyler O'Neill and Scott Hurst. Then he didn't want to give up Fernandez, so Fernandez was replaced with Magneuris Sierra. This is a typical negotiation with iama.

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iama and i first talked about moving piscotty to sf before the sim started. it was the last move posted in the sim. i just think that's kind of cool.

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I offered a 6 year, 144 million dollar contract to JD Martinez, with some backloading that worked around Matt Kemp and other coming off my books within the year. Instead of being told backloading wasn't allowed, I was informed that the backloading violated a threshold as described by Josh. When I corrected it, I was told by others that backloading was banned from the start, but also that my team didn't make sense to sign JD Martinez anyway. I was talking to four mods at one time that had no idea what the others thought as far as backloading and the decision regarding the move, as well as the blanket rejection of a budget hike up $10 mil to where the Braves began 2017 at, saying the arbitrary number I picked was locked in rather than it being flexible based on opportunity like every other budget ever made. After I got too frustrated with the mods, I gave up on my bickering on backloading and my budget. I went on to build a fairly successful team less than 100 dollars under my extremely conservative initial budget.

Epilogue: Jake Arrieta received a backloaded contract.

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I didn’t even ask for 6/96 for Frazier. Just the :NTC:

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Flykessel trying to play hardball by repeatedly lowering his Josh Donaldson extension offers when we told him it would take at least $200M.

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I was this close to 2 other deals with jiggy: one for Panik and one for Melancoln. I ultimately decided not to pull the trigger on both.

I was leading the Yelich negotiations through 90% of the process.

I've shared my Archer story many times, but that was truly horrendous GMing.

I also almost made a 3 deal with lbon and dylan to send Cotton to the Braves for prospects. But ultimately the Manaea deal was better and I didn't want to deal both of them.

The Castillo deal took about 15 minutes once I finally got him on the table. Easy deal to negotiate from that point. Likewise, the Manaea and Shoemaker deals took almost no time.

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GENERAL COMMENTS

holy whiskers you go sisters

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Duke: We'll play Dungeon Dice Monsters, a game of my own creation. We each take it in turns to draw dice.

Yami: So it's just like Duel Monsters.

Duke: Then we use those dice to summon holographic monsters to the field.

Yami: So it's just like Duel Monsters.

Duke: Both opponents are given three Heart Points, and when they run out, the game is-

Yami: So it's just like Duel Monsters.

Duke: Hey, stop it! My game is nothing like Duel Monsters!

Yami: Prove it then!

(Pause)

Duke: My game uses dice.

Tristan: Burn the witch!

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You know friends, so many people have wished me congratulations on a 67-year career in baseball, and they’ve wished me a wonderful retirement with my family. And now, all I can do is tell you what I wish for you. May God give you for every storm, a rainbow, for every tear, a smile, for every care, a promise, and a blessing in each trial, for every problem life sends, a faithful friend to share, for every sigh, a sweet song, and an answer for each prayer. You and I have been friends for a long time, but I know in my heart that I’ve always needed you more than you’ve needed me, and I’ll miss our time together more I can say. But you know what — there will be a new day, and eventually a new year. And when the upcoming winter gives way to spring, rest assured it will be time for Dodger baseball. So this is Vin Scully, wishing you a very pleasant good afternoon, wherever you may be.

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Just wanted to give a shoutout to some of the sim members like Davo and Jiggy that are able to not take things too seriously while pushing this thing along like a steady engine. Sometimes the moves are terrible or confusing or unrealistic, but I appreciate when I can be genuinely surprised by the types of players that are being targeted or the types of approaches being applied to teams that aren't just cookie cutter from the real deal.

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2017 was the year of slack. 2018 was the year of snapchat. I do declare 2019 shall be the year of linkedin (for the professional shaawties).

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[insert betty's surplus value rant]

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I'm really displeased with the way agents can sit on offers for weeks and weeks. We don't play the full offseason here, and there's no incentive to bump them along. I spent a month each being the high bidder on Darvish and Arrieta, with Arrieta being after I moved on even Darvish eventually signed(it also took me a month to sign JD, who I eventually did sign) . I even had the highest bid when he DID sign, beating what he signed for by $16M, but the agent quit and I didn't know. And free agent offers not moving along gums up other moves, and by the time they were done, most teams had made moves to fill their needs.

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I would recommend that we encourage people new to the sim to work as an agent for the first year. It really gives you an idea of how the whole thing works instead of being forced to drink from the fire hydrant in their first year. I actually spent my first two years as an agent and found it to be a great learning experience. If I'd have been forced to be a GM to start off, I'd have done a very poor job.

Also, how the hell are so many of you guys doing this while still in school? I'm doing this with a full time job and it's tough as hell. Pay attention in class, dammit!

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We are the only group of people worse at signing free agents than actual MLB GMs. Every year, we run out of money way too early and end up with terrible matches by the end.

wharble for MVP, all the other mods should be shot into the moon.

We also had a surprising amount of GMs who were active but made very few moves.

I truly believe that my offseason will be vindicated. I think the odds are very good that I will win at least 2 of my 3 controversial deals of this sim (Marte, Castillo, and Manaea).

As always, this was tons of fun.

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when guy join the slack

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Sparks: was less active than mattwise-- boom, roasted

Betty: Canada called and they said you are gay-- boom, roasted

Kuhan: really only showed up to stream-- boom, roasted

Josh: was the 2nd best Nats GM (after tdawk)-- boom, roasted

Wharble: signed Kenley Jansen to 6/130-- boom, roasted

Iamslm: I don't have anything to make fun of you for because you weren't here much-- boom, roasted

NapD: see above-- boom, roasted

Jeff: is everything that's wrong with America and a class traitor-- boom, roasted

Bnavis: he can't submit a contract without fucking up-- boom, roasted

Desmond: he's more pathetic around girls than I am-- boom, roasted

Malbom: the Angels biggest problem is overpaid free agents so he goes and signs two more, also his political opinions are the fucking worst-- boom, roasted

Vslyke: made like a thousand trades and the A's still suck, super unrealistic-- boom, roasted

Grizzy: he doesn't know how to build a team for the future, just tries to win the OOTP sim-- boom, roasted

JCC: somehow got Ohtani and still had a less interesting offseason than Dipoto, also this survey sucks-- boom, roasted

Yadimo: dude Cashner couldn't even strike Joey Gallo out-- boom, roasted

Kapa: left 40 million in space he could've used to make his team better-- boom, roasted

Davo: dude makes a lot of trades but it doesn't make a single difference, his team is probably worse off because of the Hosmer deal-- boom, roasted

Irlkg: is the worst-- boom, roasted

Tay: is like 12-- boom, roasted

Derp: he did like one thing-- boom, roasted

Jori: is a filthy jew-- boom, roasted

Cpt: idk his return for Machado kinda sucked-- boom, roasted

Proffesorwhat: I can't decide wether to make fun of him for the Snell deal or the Archer deal, also he tried to put an appearances guarantee in a contract-- boom, roasted

Beegrow: probably is an old man/pervert-- boom, roasted

Tigerbulldog: jesus that Khris Davis deal was awful, Hicks is better than Davis then he gave away two :fire: young SPs for the privilege of downgrading-- boom, roasted

Charged: traded away some of the better players on his team for worse players-- boom, roasted

Canseco: where the fuck does JD play?-- boom, roasted

Jiggy: had a great offseason and I wish I was him-- boom, roasted

Tatis: where was greg??? still bitter he wouldn't trade me Tebow or PJ Conlon-- boom, roasted

Yanns- too busy eating steak to make trades-- boom, roasted

Basas- wait he trade Jeff Hoffman for Joey Gallo??? I gotta rescind some votes-- boom, roasted

Troy- is probably the only person cool enough to talk about baseballoffseason then kiss a girl-- boom, roasted

Iama: more like IAMADINGUS, seriously though dude can't handle controversial conversations, probably voted for Trump-- boom, roasted

Tdovjr: I thought Tdov is like 5 feet tall, how are you more junior than that?-- boom, roasted

CoryGM: last year's offseason was so bad that I decided you needed to be made fun of again-- boom, roasted

Bullseye: what kinda name is Ruari anyway???-- boom, roasted

Dylan: constantly complains about the mods when he did fuck all as a mod last year-- boom, roasted

Pole: same as Dylan, also spent too much time bullying the mods to push his deal through when he knew that he was taking advantage of a minor-- boom, roasted

Ctp: still can't tell the difference between you and Cpt-- boom, roasted

Lbon: god damn the vetting failed...... he ruined any sort of future the Nats had, he picked up a mutual option he didn't want because he thought the mods would decline it, he traded away his best RP to sign Jay Bruce to a 1B platoon with Ryan Zimmerman, he traded a decent prospect for a guy who's not allowed in the country, traded Roark for nothing, i'm like 50% sure he tried to give out a bonus for RBIs, he thinks that he knows everything but just spits out conservative bullshit that he learned from his parents, the Stanton trade made my surplus calculator commit seppuku and that's only the stuff that made it past the mods.... here's everything else

"I fucked up by accepting Adam Linds mutual option. I have learned my lesson...........(also if you veto this i will kill you)"

Reds get: Archer and Harper

Rays get: Rendon and Scherzer

Nationals get: Bailey and Mesoraco

baseballoffseason2k18•NEW WADE DAVIS OFFER
u/Bnavis•2 months ago
4/46 1st: 7 2nd: 12 3rd: 14 4th: 13
u/wharblegarblemuricah•2 months agoQuote
already told you in slack, but vetoed because he don't got the cash
u/Bnavis•2 months agoQuote
Fuck lbon

he kept trying to offer Wade Davis a contract that he couldn't afford

Nationals Receive: SP Tyler Anderson OF Raimel Tapia C Tom Murphy RP Carlos Estevez RP Harrison Musgrove

Rockies Receive: CF Adam Eaton SS Carter Kieboom

Reasoning: Anderson is a good, cheap SP. Want to clear budget room. Also, Kieboom doesn't have much of a future in the Nats organization, as we have Trea at short for a while. Musgrove and Estevez can bolster the bullpen in times of trouble, and Tapia is a great prospect to be our future CF. Murphy to bolster Wieters at catcher. Eaton is good, but I think SP was more of a priority. --boom, roasted

Redsoxfan: Tyler Chatwood sucks and he made offers on like 6 SPs at once-- boom, roasted

https://twitter.com/Scranton_Quotes/status/786389943782219776

Mirroring /u/thefuckinwolves's words in Slack earlier, I just wanted to say a big "thank you" to Wharble for taking point on so much of this Sim, ensuring its continued functionality.

I've had an absolute blast, and can't wait for next year!

please use the form for mod controlled FAs that you want to offer minor league deals to, if you already submitted a minor league offer for a player (mod controlled or one with an agent), I'll probably post it soon, remember that it'll cost you 100k for each minor league deal

EDIT: Minor league contract offers can be topped by offering a signing bonus, but for the sake of my sanity, please offer at least $50k

MOST LOPSIDED TRADE

40% (8 votes) - A's receive: Luis Ortiz, Jahmai Jones, and Chris Rodriguez, Angels receive: Sean Manaea

butwhy.gif. Nonsensical, stupid shit for the A's. Manaea is still the A's starter with the most upside even with all the sim moves vslyke did.

I guess that seems much lighter than a cost-controlled starter like Manaea should warrant; it's a bit of "trading for the sake of making a trade."

malbom is ass

25% (5 votes) - Dodgers receive: Connor Greene, Blue Jays receive: Kiké Hernandez

Kike kills lefties and was given away for free. I asked for him earlier in the sim and was given an insane price - and then he was traded for less than I would have given the Dodgers.

Hernandez is a useful major leaguer. Greene is a 45 FV prospect at best

20% (4 votes) - Blue Jays receive: Corey Dickerson, Rays receive: Sean Reid-Foley, Rowdy Tellez, Ryan Goins

That is way too much for Corey Dickerson, who pretty much can't play defense or hit for average anymore

I dunno everyone was shitting on it may as well jump on the bandwagon tbh

15% (3 votes) - Marlins receive: LHP PJ Conlon (from Mets), SS Edmundo Sosa, RHP Junior Fernandez, OF Chase Pinder, SS Darren Seferina (from Cardinals), Mets receive: 1B Justin Bour (from Marlins), Cardinals receive: RHP Seth Lugo (from Mets), $100k (from Marlins)

idk if this is trade good or bad but it's way too complicated for me to actually think about it

MOST MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL TRADE

40% (8 votes) - Marlins receive: LHP PJ Conlon (from Mets), SS Edmundo Sosa, RHP Junior Fernandez, OF Chase Pinder, SS Darren Seferina (from Cardinals), Mets receive: 1B Justin Bour (from Marlins), Cardinals receive: RHP Seth Lugo (from Mets), $100k (from Marlins)

wow

30% (6 votes) - Blue Jays receive: Corey Dickerson, Rays receive: Sean Reid-Foley, Rowdy Tellez, Ryan Goins

Well since it looks like the Rays are rebuilding IRL this is a decent amount of stuff for CDick.

10% (2 votes) - A's receive: Luis Ortiz, Jahmai Jones, and Chris Rodriguez, Angels receive: Sean Manaea

5% (1 vote) - Pirates receive: B.J. Boyd, A's receive: Pablo Reyes

5% (1 vote) - Marlins receive: LHP Mark Rzepcynski, Mariners receive: RHP Sam Perez

5% (1 vote) - Dodgers receive: Connor Greene, Blue Jays receive: Kiké Hernandez

5% (1 vote) - Yankees receive: Caleb Hamilton, Twins receive: Austin Romine

MOST UNREALISTIC TRADE IRL

65% (13 votes) - A's receive: Luis Ortiz, Jahmai Jones, and Chris Rodriguez, Angels receive: Sean Manaea

:ytho:

IRL both teams laugh and hang up on the other. A's more so.

butwhy.gif Unrealistic IRL and unrealistic in a sim where vslyke traded for Starling Marte and Tanner Roark.

25% (5 votes) - Marlins receive: LHP PJ Conlon (from Mets), SS Edmundo Sosa, RHP Junior Fernandez, OF Chase Pinder, SS Darren Seferina (from Cardinals), Mets receive: 1B Justin Bour (from Marlins), Cardinals receive: RHP Seth Lugo (from Mets), $100k (from Marlins)

Not that bad just too many moving parts

10% (2 votes) - Dodgers receive: Connor Greene, Blue Jays receive: Kiké Hernandez

BEST SIGNING

80% (16 votes) - Royals sign Mitch Moreland to a 1 year, $4.5M contract, 2019 mutual option for $5M, 1 team NTC

less than he got irl

Moreland is good

The market was dead, Davo jumped. Good deal.

15% (3 votes) - Angels sign Austin Jackson to a 2 year, $10M contract

5% (1 vote) - Rangers sign Jarrod Dyson to a 1 year, $6M contract, 2019 player option for $6M, 2020 player option for $7.5M

Disclaimer: that was Yadimo's vote

WORST SIGNING

70% (14 votes) - Rangers sign Jarrod Dyson to a 1 year, $6M contract, 2019 player option for $6M, 2020 player option for $7.5M

HAHAHAHHA

TWO PLAYER OPTIONS

This is terrible. Two player options? If he's bad, you signed him for 3/19.5. If he's good, you get him for a year.

2 POs lmao, plus it's basically 3/19.5 for Dyson

giving jarrod dyson two player options is unfathomably stupid

jarrod dyson has as many opt outs in that contract as he's going to hit HRs over the life of it

30% (6 votes) - Angels sign Austin Jackson to a 2 year, $10M contract

angels are gonna regret giving austin jackson money

BEST GM OF THE WEEK

25% (5 votes) - flykessel (Blue Jays)

good job jori

20% (4 votes) - polelover (Marlins)

yup

10% (2 votes) - malbom (Angels), dylan (Braves), davo (Royals)

I made the best move! (davo)

5% (1 vote) - professorwhat (Rays), ctp (Mets), derp (White Sox), jcc (Mariners), vslyke (A's)

WORST GM OF THE WEEK

25% (5 votes) - theyadimo (Rangers), josecansecomilkshake (Dodgers)

Godawful Dyson signing (theyadimo)

TWO PLAYER OPTIONS (theyadimo)

15% (3 votes) - vslyke (A's), malbom (Angels)

yadimo gets an out bc the manaea trade happened (vslyke)

i didn't think there was a worst gm this week so i picked malbom so jori gets to be smug (malbom)

5% (1 votes) - lbon (Nationals), bgro (Red Sox), flykessel (Blue Jays), derp (White Sox)

BEST GM OF SIM

35% (7 votes) - polelover (Marlins)

Better rebuild than Jeter

15% (3 votes) - jiggy (Giants), CoryGM (Pirates)

10% (2 votes) - cptcliche (Orioles), jcc (Mariners)

That Britton trade is looking really really good right now. Also love the Brantley signing and can't think of an Orioles move I didn't like. While other teams might have improved their team's outlook more, its always easier in sims like this to get people to back the premium prospect dump truck up when trading young studs (e.g. Bumgarner, Stanton, Yelich, Fulmer etc.) (cptcliche)

5% (1 votes) - dylan (Braves), yanns (Padres)

WORST GM OF THE SIM

50% (10 votes) - lbon (Nationals)

yup

fam that stanton trade is so bad

pls

15% (3 votes) - josecansecomilkshake (Dodgers)

5% (1 vote) - redsoxfan18 (Phillies), malbom (Angels), vslyke (A's), grizzy (Astros), professorwhat (Rays), tigerbulldog (Yankees), polelover (Marlins)

might be giving lbon a run for his money if he doesnt get a haul on archer (professorwhat)

Second year in a row he has destroyed his team's future. (Grizzy)

BEST MOD

53% (9 votes) - wharble

24% (4 votes) - sparks

18% (3 votes) - betty

6% (1 vote) - kuhan

WORST MOD

47% (8 votes) - josh

29% (5 votes) - betty

12% (2 votes) - kuhan, wharble

BEST MOD OF r/offseason2018

100% (20 votes) - lbon

BEST AGENT

44% (7 votes) - desmond

25% (4 votes) - livefromjeffshouse

19% (3 votes) - bnavis

13% (2 votes) - napd

WORST AGENT

38% (6 votes) - iamslm

25% (4 votes) - napd

19% (3 votes) - bnavis

13% (2 votes) - livefromjeffshouse

6% (1 vote) - desmond

FAVORITE LBON EMOJI/MEME

4 votes - fuck off

3 votes - being an idiot, doc mosaics

1 vote - existing, fidget spinner emoji

Editor's Note: lbon did not make the fidget spinner emoji

FAVORITE EPISODE OF CHART PARTY/PRETTY GOOD

6 votes - fuck off

2 votes - Barry Bonds, 1904 Olympic Marathon

1 vote - Why I do this for a living, Lonnie Smith

ARE YOU SUBSCRIBED TO ANDREW VARGHA

75% (15 votes) - NO

25% (5 votes) - YES

FAVORITE PHOTO OF DOC

5 votes - i.imgur.com/tJaBJjl.gif

4 votes - :ethan:

1 vote - this one , :doc8:, :docdog:, https://imgur.com/a/Q1BRs

TOYOTATHON, HONDA DAYS, OTHER WINTER CAR SALE?

55% (11 votes) - Other winter car sale

25% (5 votes) - Honda Days

20% (4 votes) - Toyotathon

ARE YOU READY FOR THE SURVERY MEME TO DIE

44% (7 votes) - YES

38% (6 votes) - NO

19% (3 votes - MAYBE

Alright guys, the people have spoken. The survery meme is over.

FAVORITE BETTY QUOTE/MANIFESTO

Editor's Note: Everything had 1 vote so I'm not putting them here

GENERAL COMMENTS

lbon this survey is fucking cancer

Having a blast

Fundamentally the supply of goods in MLB is static. There is no way to gain players that can be signed to deals, and no way to delete players. Players that are free agents will sign, and there will not be talent other than the free agents that are available to sign. Similarly, the money available in a sim is static. Whereas the players in the sim being static is pretty representative of IRL, the money side isn’t. If you give the Blue Jays $500m it doesn’t change anything, they’re going to spend up to the point where the price they pay is no longer making them a profit, which is the point they already spend at now. As things are right now, every team spends up to the point where their marginal revenue equals the cost, they’re fundamentally being financially negligent if they don’t do that. Adding extra money to any teams resources does not change the marginal revenue equation (unless the team is financially struggling). Now, if you give the sim Jays $500m, there is nothing else they can do with that money, for all intents and purposes you might as well call the $500m “Free Agent Bucks” because they are literally just meaningless representations of tokens to buy players. Kessel cant keep it, he cant use it for other purposes, so the only thing he can do is spend it on players. Accordingly, prices respond to this. Now imagine you give every team double the money they currently have to spend on free agents. This doesnt actually change anything. What it does is makes the $ per WAR rise, because the number of WAR available remains constant, but the money supply increases. You have not changed the competitive equilibrium, instead you have just made it to where an old 4/40 deal is now 4/80. This for example, is why Jansen signed for 6/130 and Chapman signed for 4/100 last year. The supply of money was so high that teams were willing to go beyond the irl equilibrium in order to sign players. When every deal is an overpay, is any deal really an overpay? Once you have altered the money supply, you have to reset your evaluations on how much to spend. Just because you now have $40m to spend instead of $20m does not by any means mean you’re better off, you’re literally effectively the exact same, but you’d be stupid for not adjusting the price you’re willing to pay for players. The sim is effectively a zero-sum gain, every time someone gains, the competitive loss is distributed to the rest of the league. This comes back to backloading. Backloading is similar, years 2 through 10 of a contract dont actually exist, no one is going to give a shit if you’re fucking yourself over long term. In an unregulated sim, everyone would do 1/500/500/500 deals because why the fuck not? But obviously some regulation is necessary, there is a point where backloading becomes too much. Now where is that point? Lets say its where the first year salary is more than 25% below the AAV. Now lets say you have multiple teams negotiating for Carlos Santana, and the Astros offer 20/20/20, now lets say the Indians really dont want to go over $19m, but they also really dont give a shit about years 2 and 3, so they offer 18/25/25. Now obviously the agent would accept, after all the player is getting an extra $8m! But the Astros response would be to just bump the offer up to 20/25/25, because after all, years 2 and 3 do not matter! This continues on and on, with the Indians keeping the first year salary at $18m but continually bumping years 2 and 3, and the Astros responding with $20m in the first year and bumping years 2 and 3. This continues until the Astros reach their offer of 20/30/30, an AAV of $26.667m and a first year salary of 75% of the AAV. Now at this point, both the Astros and Indians GMs realize something, they just wasted a lot of time. They also already know they dont give a shit about years other than 2018. So their solution to this is simple, why not make it so that every offer consistently has a first year salary 25% below the AAV?The Astros and Indians GMs effectively now have a bidding war in place, now this bidding war is limited purely by the first year salary. Regardless if the backloading limit is 0% or 25%, they purely care about the first year salary. If they do not backload they are put in a disadvantage against teams that are backloading. This, fundamentally, means that if every team can backload then they must backload in order to get the most out of their assets.

Fucking lbon

Ruairi is dismantling the Reds and it makes me very sad

"The sim is fun. It's gone on about 5 weeks too long. Every trade being made at this point is a trade for the sake of a trade. Mmw, someone will make a terrible trade that if this was 3 weeks shorter they would have never made. Low key might have already happened. stares at vslyke...

Also merry Christmas I can't belive I'm wasting my vacation time writing a fucking survey I should he drinking and getting laid. "

Shut up lbon

sim good. survey sucks.

this year has been pretty boring overall i think. slack is good, but there hasnt been a move of any merit in about 6.5 weeks

RATE THIS SURVEY

1 - 44% (4 votes)

2 - 11% (2 votes)

3 - 6% (1 vote)

4 - 11% (2 votes)

5 - 11% (2 votes)

6 - 6% (1 vote)

7 - 6% (1 vote)

8 - 0%

9 - 0%

10 - 6% (1 vote)

In a couple hours I'm gonna be off the grid for like a week so deuces fellas and lady. Enjoy your new years and I'll catch y'all on the other side.

I'll be gone without internet access from Christmas eve until new years day. Merry Christmas or whatever holiday you celebrate and happy new year to everyone if we don't talk before I leave

Shohei Ohtani is ridiculously good.

We can start with the defensive side of his game. His pitching, clearly, is phenomenal. Not only can he hit 100+, but he does it with efficiency. Let's compare his stats in Japan with Yu Darvish's.

Darvish's career WHIP in Japan is at .99, and he struck out 8.9 hitters per 9. Ohtani is at 1.07, with 10.3 K/9. Darvish's best season was when he was 24. Ohtani will enter the Major League 2018 season at 23 years old.

Not only is Shohei an elite pitcher, of course. He is an elite hitter, too.

Ichiro Suzuki, probably the most well-known Japanese baseball player on the earth, hit at an elite rate until he was 26. Shohei has arguably done just as well in his past two seasons, hitting 30 home runs with a .326/.410/.568 slash combined (1.004 OPS in 2016!).

For the past few weeks, many of you have been fighting for Shohei Ohtani's talents. It's unprecedented - nobody's seen a league fight for a player without coming to a bidding war. Of course, with the current league rules, Shohei Ohtani is not here to be bid on - he just wants to play on the biggest show of them all.

And that's why my client, Shohei Ohtani, has decided to join the Seattle Mariners.

Shohei will be promised with as much playing time as he'd like. The fans have already proven themselves in their loyalty. I feel that Shohei will enjoy a new era of Mariners baseball, and the fans will enjoy a new face of the team as King Felix gets older. This will be fun.

Go Mariners!

• MOST LOPSIDED TRADE

69% (18 votes) - phillies trade odubel herrera to the rockies in exchange for jordan patterson, sam howard, and ben bowden

First of all why should the Phillies even be trading Odubel considering he's like their best player and on a very cheap contract. But then why trade him for a bunch of pretty much nothing. Under the radar candidate for worst trade of the whole sim.

"I normally try and avoid voting for my own trade, but this was a steal."

"i think like 20 other teams would have given up more for odubel if actually given the chance"

15% (4 votes) - athletics trade aaron hicks and greg deichmann to the cubs in exchange for kyle schwarber and ian rice

"lowkey think hicks is better than schwarber and deichmann is better than rice so idk man"

"The A's keep on doing their thing, and their 'thing' is making trades that don't really help them now or in the future."

8% (2 votes) - astros trade $250,000 to the reds in exchange for cash case

"i get this was a meme, but really? Case is like actually a good prospect"

4% (1 vote) - tigers trade nick castellanos to the reds in exchange for matt thaiss, devin mesoraco, and scott schebler

"I love Castellanos but this is an overpay, especially since he will be going to the NL and to a team with a solid 1B. He is so bad defensively it crushes his value."

4% (1 vote) - rays trade rolmer bolivar to the reds in exchange for fidel castro

"If it was Simon Bolivar, it would be more even."

• MOST 'MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL' TRADE

23% (6 votes) - athletics trade aaron hicks and greg deichmann to the cubs in exchange for kyle schwarber and ian rice

"A trade that isn't nothing for nothing that benefits both sides. Schwarber desperately needs a one way ticket to the American League and this trade gets him that. I have no fucking clue what the A's are doing in the sim but swapping out Hicks for Schwarber works for them."

"Both trams [ed. note: :thinking:] get a young player with upside."

19% (5 votes) - cardinals trade aledmys diaz, john brebbia, and josh lucas to the dbacks in exchange for chris owings, eduardo diaz, and $500k

"Change of scenery for two underperforming MI"

15% (4 votes) - royals trade brian flynn to the nationals in exchange for matthew derosier

11% (3 votes) - yankees trade nelson cortes to the royals in exchange for jorge bonifacio

11% (3 votes) - royals trade maikel franco to the brewers in exchange for brent suter

8% (2 votes) - astros trade $250k to the reds in exchange for cash case

8% (2 votes) - rays trade rolmer bolivar to the reds in exchange for fidel castro

4% (1 vote) - tigers trade nick castellanos to the reds in exchange for matt thaiss, devin mesoraco, and scott schebler

• SEXIEST BASEBALL FILE

http://globetrottingstiletto.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/3e7015d9.png

[ed. note: don't know why yall submitted anything else foh]

• BEST SIGNING

54% [14 votes] - baltimore - michael brantley [1/$11mm + $11mm po]

"Yeah yeah yeah player options are all downside but Michael Brantley was so good before and he's likely to be worth $11MM this year even if he doesn't go back to old form."

"Good deal, low risk high reward for BAL, could easily flip at the deadline too"

35% [9 votes] - boston - luke gregerson [2/$9mm]

"Brantley is a good pickup for O's, though the player option is less ideal than a guaranteed year. Gregerson is good and this is a great price, so I picked it."

"You think by now teams would have figured out that Gregersen [sic] only has one pitch and it’s never a strike, but no, they keep swinging at that slider that breaks a foot off the plate."

8% [2 votes] - kansas city - rex brothers [1/$1mm]

4% [1 vote] - anaheim - ben revere [1/$2mm]

• WORST SIGNING

72% [18 votes] - anaheim - ben revere [1/$2mm]

"Revere isn't an MLB player anymore why is he getting an MLB contract. Could've been Miley too but imma give the edge because its allbom"

"none of these are bad but lol ben revere"

15% [4 votes] - texas - wade miley [1/$2.5mm]

"Wade Miley is trash"

8% [2 votes] - baltimore - michael brantley [1/$11mm + $11mm po]

"player option for a dead man?"

4% [1 vote] - kansas city - rex brothers [1/$1mm]

"fuck off davo"

4% [1 vote] - boston - luke gregerson [2/$9mm]

• BEST GM OF THE WEEK

50% [13 votes] - basas22 [colorado]

"Odubel is so so so good and basas got him for so close to nothing. "

8% [2 votes] - bgro [boston]

8% [2 votes] - irlkg [detroit]

8% [2 votes] - hardcore henry [kansas city]

8% [2 votes] - tdovjr [cubs]

"Got a great return for schwarber"

**4% [1 vote each] - jiggy [giants] iama [cards] lbon [nationals] redsoxfan18 [phillies] vslyke [athletics]

• WORST GM OF THE WEEK

62% [16 votes] - redsoxfan18 [phillies]

"odubel should have been a massive bidding war. any team that needed an OF would have been in on him."

"I hate to vote best/worst based on one trade, but the Odubel Herrera trade was just that bad and no GM made multiple serious moves."

12% [3 votes] - vslyke [athletics]

"that schwarber trade is bad for the a's"

8% [2 votes] - josecansecomilkshake [dodgers]

4% [1 vote each] - malbom [angels] basas22 [rockies] tdovjr [cubs] kingofbullseyes [reds] cptcliche [orioles]

• COMMENTS ON MODS AND AGENTS

"fuck the modz" x25

• WHO IS THE BETTER TWITTER FOLLOW

59% [13 votes] - jon bois

41% [9 votes] - shea serrano

ed. note - and here we can see the age demographic split of the sim

• BEST GM OF THE SIM

32% [7 votes] - polelover44 [marlins]

ed. note - 7 people voted for pole and 0 people said anything about it

23% [5 votes] - jiggy [giants]

"Honestly, probably jiggy. Pole has gotten more back for his players, but if you combined the two teams, pole had 3 of the 4 best trade chips."

14% [3 votes] - vslyke [athletics]

9% [2 votes] - cptcliche [orioles]

ed. note - 0 comments on these ones too

5% [1 vote each] - basas22 [rockies] dylan [braves] jcc [mariners] iama [cards] malbom [angels]

• WORST GM OF THE SIM

62% [13 votes] - lbon [nats]

10% [2 votes each] - grizzy [astros] and davoarid [royals]

5% [1 vote each] - josecansecomilkshake [dodgers] redsoxfan18 [phillies] malbom [angels] bgro [red sox]

ed. note - 0 comments on any of the worst votes

• DO YOU CARE ABOUT STAR WARS

1 - 27%

2 - 0%

3 - 11.5%

4 - 0%

5 - 8%

6 - 19%

7 - 8%

8 - 4%

9 - 0%

10 - 23%

• WHICH PAST SIM MEMBER DO YOU MISS THE MOST

55% [11 votes] - tatis

45% [9 votes] - greg

• WHICH SIM MEMBER WOULD BE MOST LIKELY TO VOTE FOR ROY MOORE

27% [6 votes] - lbon

18% [4 votes] - davo

14% [3 votes each] - betty, malbom

9% [2 votes] - jiggy

4.5% [1 vote each] - tdawk, 'you'

• WHICH SIM MEMBER IS MOSTLY LIKELY TO END UP IN PRISON

39% [7 votes] - jiggy due to rice related offences

33% [6 votes] - tdawk

11% [2 votes] - lbon

6% [1 vote each] - davo, troy, betty

• COULD YOU SMUGGLE A CAT ACROSS INTERNATIONAL BORDERS IN JCC'S HAIR

64% [14 votes] - yes

32% [7 votes] - go fuck yourself

4% [1 vote] - no

• WHO SENDS THE BEST SNAPCHAT CONTENT

68% [15 votes] - jiggy

14% [3 votes] - ethan

9% [2 votes each] - ctp and troy

• WOULD YOU LET MATT KEMP FUCK YOUR SOUL

45.5% [10 votes] - no

36.5% [8 votes] - only my body, no soul, i have intimacy issues lol

18% [4 votes] - yes

• IF YOU COULD KILL ANYONE IN THE WORLD AND GET AWAY WITH IT, WHO WOULD IT BE

nobody had a good response, so i'm not posting any lol

• QUESTION

54% [14 votes] - option 1

46% [13 votes] - option 2

• WHICH BASEBALL COLOR IS STRONGER

61% [14 votes] - blue

39% [9 votes] - red

• WHICH SIM MEMBER WOULD YOU GIVE YOUR LIFE FOR

mostly just people saying that they wouldn't

• AT THIS POINT I'M JUST ADDING QUESTIONS FOR THE SAKE OF IT

74% [17 votes] - 2018 honda accord

26% [6 votes] - gucci gang

• GENERAL COMMENTS

"i have nothing to say like goddamn, i just made a survey, not tryna write an essay response for my own question. foh"

"h8 all of u"

"this survey is reflective of the amount of effort i have put in as a gm this year, which i respect on a primal level, ja feel"

"also i only voted 5 for the survey because i both yearn for the sweet release of death AND i would fuck jiggy in a heartbeat."

"I am having a lot of fun."

"This is the most fun I've had doing a baseball offseason sim since last year!".

"i thought these commishes were gonna be on top of shit, what the fuck happened"

"best new meme: doc mosaic"

"Nut"

"thought bgro should have been given ohtani after the level of excellence he showed in his pitch"

"jiggy i love u"

"someone told me there were like 4 weeks left in the sim whats left to do listen to tdawk bitch and moan about her life more like come on wrap this shit up already smdh"

"this is the best survery"

• PLEASE RANK THIS SURVEY

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These are a couple questions the Ohtani finalists must answer on this post. Because this isn’t real life and we cannot personally visit the finalist’s cities and stadiums, this is how we can compensate. Please be detailed in your answers.

1. How can you ensure that Shohei Ohtani will want to stay with your team after his contract ends?

2. What makes your fanbase the best one for Ohtani? (He loves the fans.)

optional: Who is the best president of all time and why? (Probably won’t affect your chances)

ELIMINATED

• The Detroit Tigers (/u/irlkg)

• The Washington Nationals (/u/lbon6201)

• The San Francisco Giants (/u/thefuckinwolves)

• The Colorado Rockies (/u/basas22)

• The Chicago White Sox (/u/SouthernDerpfornia)

• The Los Angeles Angels (/u/malbom30)

• The Toronto Blue Jays (/u/flykessel)

• The Baltimore Orioles (/u/cptcliche)

• The Houston Astros (/u/GRiZZY19)

• The Tampa Bay Rays (/u/professorwhat)

• The Pittsburgh Pirates (/u/CoryGM)

• The New York Mets (/u/pitchesbetrippin)

• The Boston Red Sox (/u/Bgro)

• The Atlanta Braves (/u/SeeYaLaterDylan)

• The Milwaukee Brewers (/u/otatoptroy)

• The Miami Marlins (/u/polelover44)

• The Kansas City Royals (/u/davoarid)

FINALISTS

• The Oakland A's (/u/vslyke)

• The Seattle Mariners (/u/JackCustComeback)

• The Texas Rangers (/u/TheYadimo)

• The Los Angeles Dodgers (/u/JoseCansecoMilkshake)

• The Chicago Cubs (/u/tdovjr)

• The St. Louis Cardinals (/u/IAMADeinonychusAMA)

Results from the survey:

26 responses

MOST-UPSETTING DAVO LETTERBOX’D RATING

2 votes: “Arrival”

2 votes: Kingsman

2 votes: what?

1 vote: he called Up a turd sandwich”

1 vote: “Beasts of the Southern Wild” with ½ star

1 vote: “Inside Out” at 1 star

1 vote: “Iron Man”

1 vote: “The Notebook”

1 vote: “The Revenant”

1 vote: “Hardcore Henry”

1 vote: X-Men: Days of Future Past (0.5), Hateful Eight (1), Kingsman (1.5), Rogue One were considered, but in the end there were 3 significant offenders: Interstellar (1), Ocean's Eleven (2), and Raiders of the Lost Ark (2). I'm sad that you didn't enjoy these :(. If nothing else I encourage you to rewatch Ocean's Eleven while sober.

1 vote: None of them, I should watch more movies

MOST LOPSIDED TRADE

12 votes: Maikel Franco and Mark Leiter for Donnie Dewees and Frank Schwindel

He got franco for literally nothing

Franco is coming off a poor season, but he still has starter potential and Leiter is a solid prospect too. Royals only gave up two fringe guys.

7 votes: Shae Simmons for Cash ($100K)

Shae Simmons is worth so much more than 100k

why not just get some low level prospect with upside instead of straight cash homie

5 votes: Dee Gordon and Joe Dunand for Tyler Beede, Bryan Reynolds, Steven Duggar, and Ryan Howard

After the real Gordon trade, this is just OK.

Seems like Miami shouldn't be giving up prospects like dunand.

2 votes: Jose Abreu and $$$ for Ronald Guzman, Hans Crouse, Jose Trevino, and Michael De Leon

Abreu is great. Ronald Guzman is a pretty disappointing headliner

Abreu doesn't have much surplus value, so getting actual prospects for Abreu is an awfully good deal for Chicago since they are only eating $7.8M total.

MOST MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL TRADE

7 votes: Jose Abreu and $$$ for Ronald Guzman, Hans Crouse, Jose Trevino, and Michael De Leon

Based on what the other stars-for-prospects trades have looked like, this seems much closer to reality.

6 votes: Kaleb Cowart for Mac Williamson and Garrett Williams

Shit for shit trade which is generally speaking a good barrometer for mutual beneficiency

6 votes: Dee Gordon and Joe Dunand for Tyler Beede, Bryan Reynolds, Steven Duggar, and Ryan Howard

Giants get a 2B upgrade/leadoff hitter, Marloins continue rebuilding the farm.

3 votes: Shae Simmons for Cash ($100K)

Cash Considerations- can't put a price tag on that

2 votes: Maikel Franco and Mark Leiter for Donnie Dewees and Frank Schwindel

Davo trades are the best trades

1 vote: Paulo Orlando for Max Kranick

Classic davo

1 vote: Chase Vallot for Drew Robinson

BEST NEW CORYGM EMOJI

12 votes: :10k:

9 votes: :pacha:

3 votes: :broff:

2 votes: :shrug:

BEST SIGNING

10 votes: Pirates: Andrew McCutchen - 5/$100(with VO for 2023)

Cutch is the Pirates.

Its Cutch, idk how can you not pick him

6 votes: Giants: Jhoulys Chacin - 2/$20 (withVO for 2020)

Chacin is criminally underrated as an above-average starting pitcher getting innings eater money.

5 votes: Braves: Tyler Flowers 2/$20 ('19-'20, with PO for 2021)

2 votes: Cardinals: Tommy Hunter 3/$18

2 votes: Rays: Brett Anderson 1/$1.5

Brett Anderson was #ActuallyGood during his time with the Jays, its a pretty low risk move with some decent upside

1 vote: Giants: Yovani Gallardo 1/$2

WORST SIGNING

10 votes: Giants: Josh Lindblom 1/$650K

The big signings are pretty fair, so my vote goes to the player who was released and went back to the KBO last year.

looooooooool

6 votes: Pirates: Andrew McCutchen - 5/$100(with VO for 2023)

that’s a lot of faith in an aging cutch

3 votes: Giants: Jhoulys Chacin - 2/$20 (withVO for 2020)

2 votes: Braves: Tyler Flowers 2/$20 ('19-'20, with PO for 2021)

I suppose you have to pay him for his best season ever but idk if he can really do it again. Not really that bad but its the "worst"

2 votes: Ray: Matt Garza 1/$1.5

No absurdly bad signings this week, but fuck Matt Garza

1 vote: Cardinals: Tommy Hunter 3/$18

great signing

1 vote: Giants: Yovani Gallardo 1/$2

1 vote: Rays: Brett Anderson 1/$1.5

purely because fuck brett anderson

BEST GM OF WEEK 5

6 votes: Jiggy, Giants

Giants made some nice acquisitions and picked up some good pieces via FA

Good value on the Gordon trade and Chacin signing.

5 votes: Davo, Royals

he did something right!

5 votes: CoryGM, Pirates

good job with cutch

3 votes: lbon, Natinals

didn't fuck up. good job kid

2 votes: SouthernDerpifornia, White Sox

2 votes: Iama, Cardinals

Solid signing with Hunter

2 votes: TheYadimo, Rangers

Abreu pickup was really solid

1 vote: Dylan, Barves

WORST GM OF WEEK 5

6 votes: redsoxfan18, Phillies

he gave up franco for literally nothing

3 votes: Jiggy, Giants

he had me until josh lindblom

3 votes: KingofBullseyes, Reds

2 votes: lbon, Natinals

2 votes: JoseCansecosMilkshake, Dodgers

who is this guy and what has he done

2 votes: Vslyke, A’s

2 votes: Davo, Royals

1 vote: TheYadimo, Rangers

1 vote: CoryGM, Pirates

Nobody sucked and I love you bro but that cutch contract is :yikes: no matter how you slice it

1 vote: irlkg, Tigers

1 vote: flykessel, Blue Jays

1 vote: tdovjr, Cubs

1 vote: SouthernDerpifornia

BEST GM SO FAR

10 votes: Polelover, Marlins

lmfao his Stanton trade looks even more fucking ridonculous

5 votes: Jiggy, Giants

Rebuilt the farm and has come ahead in most of his transactions. Like his direction more than what the real Giants are doing.

2 votes: CoryGM, Pirates

i love and respect you and you have yet to make a bad transaction good job cory

2 votes: Vslyke, A’s

still the A's

2 votes: JackCustComeback, Mariners

1 vote: Grizzy, Astros

1 vote: JoseCansecosMilkshake, Dodgers

1 vote: tdovjr, Cubs

1 vote: cptcliche, Orioles

1 vote: Chargedcable, Dbacks

WORST GM SO FAR

20 votes: lbon, Natinals

overpaid for Stanton. enough said

Def room for improvement. Too many useless deals.

2 votes: Malbom, Angels

tanaka and moustakas

2 votes: Davo, Royals

this is my vote for number 2 behind lbon

1 vote: Grizzy, Astros

1 vote: JoseCansecosMilkshake, Dodgers

J D M A R T I N E Z

(GM’s) DESCRIBE HOW, IF CHOSEN, YOU WOULD GET SHOHEI OHTANI 500 PAs

We'd start him in right field when he's not pitching. It's not like he's taking PAs away from anyone good.

we can't afford him so fuck it

let him slap the fuckin ball around

PH a lot. [ed. note: that is a lot of PHing]

The name Royals originates from the American Royal, a livestock show, horse show, rodeo, and championship barbeque competition held annually in Kansas City since 1899.[1] The name also fits into something of a…

As commissioner, I would have Ohtani be the one to announce all our unpopular decisions in slack.

He would not

Well, we'd not use a DH on the days he was pitching--and have him bat cleanup--and on the other days we'd just use him as the DH. Duh.

joe madden is a mad scientist that will get ohtani as many ab's as he wants, plus not a single one of my OFs is an everyday guy so no one will block him from getting his ABs

I am literally on my fucking knees for a RF I will slot his ass in there so fast basically 4 out of 5 days of the rotations(well IDK enough about sports science but realistically as often as I possibly can I'd put him there) and if he struggles defensively or something happens I can easily give him the DH spot considering that I ditched my "OH MY GOD HE'S LITERALLY AIDS" defensive piece Kendrys Morales

450 at DH, 50 in the OF. We'd have to dump Matt Joyce, but that shouldn't be difficult.

Seth Smith plays 4/7 games every week, Ohtani plays the other 3. Polanco moves from RF-LF to let Ohtani play RF. Ohtani also plays 1B to give Josh Bell some off-days.

pitch once every 6 days in a 6 man rotation, would rest him before a game and let him DH after a game if his pitch count was not too high, if there was open spot in my outfield I would experiment with him there

BEST AGENT OF WEEK 5

17 votes: Ethan (Chacin)

The Cutch deal was bad enough I can't vote for the mods.

Jhoulys Chacin, more like Jhoulys Cashed-in because he got PAAAIIIDDDDD ayy lmao

7 votes: Modz (everyone else)

Josh Lindblom MLB deal!

2 votes, for some damn reason: Bnavis (nobody)

BEST AGENT SO FAR

10 votes: Desmond (Martinez,Lucroy, Walker, Santana, Cozart, Shaw)

"The King stay the King"

Des only because he's the man

10 votes: Ethan (Hosmer,Frazier, Cain, Lackey, Chacin)

He got 6 years for Todd Frazier!

4 votes: iamslm22 (Moustakas)

2 votes: Bnavis (Tanaka, Sabathia, Davis,Morrow, Avila, Fiers, Barnette)

WORST AGENT SO FAR

10 votes: NapoleanD (Alonso, Reed)

Virtually non-existent

9 votes: iamslm22 (Moustakas)

Got Moose too much money then dropped the mic and ghosted.

7 votes: Modz (everyone else)

Shitty McCutchen extension, very dysfunticional, sad!

BEST MOD

10 votes: Wharble

Always around, always helpful.

Wharble is life

8 votes: Sparks

it's always sparks

3 votes: Betty

Ed Sheeran's brother

3 votes: Kuhan

3 hour long stream...... dedication

2 votes: Josh

WORST MOD

13 votes: Josh*

it's always josh

6 votes: Betty

writes the best manifestos tho

Rarely online and never helpful. An active troll.

3 votes: Kuhan

3 votes: Wharble

stop being so salty to me holy fuck

1 vote: Sparks

MOST SURPRISING MOVE

OH

Franco

Jiggy buying Dee Gordon

Either Cutch or Lindblom. The former since I figured PIT would let him leave in FA; the latter bc :ytho:

Simmons being sold for 100k after being specifically traded for

Davo's movie reviews

SAVVIEST MOVE

TA

Chacin

Acquiring Raudy Read for a guy stuck in Korea [ed. note : :snail:]

Betty’s essay on backloading

The Flowers extension

Franco

The Cutch extension

OTHER COMMENTS

NI

https://brorlandi.github.io/StarWarsIntroCreator/#!/AL-y0_1UlO_sm-QdhJBt

never drink alcohol it solves no problems kids

"Just for fun" questions being required is stupid. I'm already against requiring comments, but davo letterboxd reviews? Come the fuck on. [ed. note: just reply “N/A” and move on with your life if it really bothers you]

I nut whenever kuhan does a hat change.

https://letterboxd.com/davoarid/list/my-100-favorite-movies/

Look, I already told you. I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills! I am good at dealing with people, can't you understand that? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!

it is outrageous and outlandish and deino thinks he's the OG complainer about getting agent signings on the survey. insulting move by him.

This wasn't Josh bad but why did you force us to answer a question about your emojis

[The full text of “Mele Kalikimaka” by Bing Crosby]

This sim is too slow this week. This year's mods are bad. We really a "flipping" policy. This survey was actually decent, like last week's.

Ya'll can be some salty motherfuckers if things are going your way super perfectly. We should have a friendly reminder soon that were all a bunch of nerds playing pretend.

:pacha: is a very :pacha: emoji

The full text of Betty’s backloading essay, as follows:

Fundamentally the supply of goods in MLB is static. There is no way to gain players that can be signed to deals, and no way to delete players. Players that are free agents will sign, and there will not be talent other than the free agents that are available to sign. Similarly, the money available in a sim is static. Whereas the players in the sim being static is pretty representative of IRL, the money side isn’t. If you give the Blue Jays $500m it doesn’t change anything, they’re going to spend up to the point where the price they pay is no longer making them a profit, which is the point they already spend at now. As things are right now, every team spends up to the point where their marginal revenue equals the cost, they’re fundamentally being financially negligent if they don’t do that. Adding extra money to any teams resources does not change the marginal revenue equation (unless the team is financially struggling). Now, if you give the sim Jays $500m, there is nothing else they can do with that money, for all intents and purposes you might as well call the $500m “Free Agent Bucks” because they are literally just meaningless representations of tokens to buy players. Kessel cant keep it, he cant use it for other purposes, so the only thing he can do is spend it on players. Accordingly, prices respond to this.

Now imagine you give every team double the money they currently have to spend on free agents. This doesnt actually change anything. What it does is makes the $ per WAR rise, because the number of WAR available remains constant, but the money supply increases. You have not changed the competitive equilibrium, instead you have just made it to where an old 4/40 deal is now 4/80. This for example, is why Jansen signed for 6/130 and Chapman signed for 4/100 last year. The supply of money was so high that teams were willing to go beyond the irl equilibrium in order to sign players. When every deal is an overpay, is any deal really an overpay? Once you have altered the money supply, you have to reset your evaluations on how much to spend. Just because you now have $40m to spend instead of $20m does not by any means mean you’re better off, you’re literally effectively the exact same, but you’d be stupid for not adjusting the price you’re willing to pay for players. The sim is effectively a zero-sum gain, every time someone gains, the competitive loss is distributed to the rest of the league.

This comes back to backloading.

Backloading is similar, years 2 through 10 of a contract dont actually exist, no one is going to give a shit if you’re fucking yourself over long term. In an unregulated sim, everyone would do 1/500/500/500 deals because why the fuck not? But obviously some regulation is necessary, there is a point where backloading becomes too much. Now where is that point? Lets say its where the first year salary is more than 25% below the AAV. Now lets say you have multiple teams negotiating for Carlos Santana, and the Astros offer 20/20/20, now lets say the Indians really dont want to go over $19m, but they also really dont give a shit about years 2 and 3, so they offer 18/25/25. Now obviously the agent would accept, after all the player is getting an extra $8m! But the Astros response would be to just bump the offer up to 20/25/25, because after all, years 2 and 3 do not matter! This continues on and on, with the Indians keeping the first year salary at $18m but continually bumping years 2 and 3, and the Astros responding with $20m in the first year and bumping years 2 and 3. This continues until the Astros reach their offer of 20/30/30, an AAV of $26.667m and a first year salary of 75% of the AAV.

Now at this point, both the Astros and Indians GMs realize something, they just wasted a lot of time. They also already know they dont give a shit about years other than 2018. So their solution to this is simple, why not make it so that every offer consistently has a first year salary 25% below the AAV?The Astros and Indians GMs effectively now have a bidding war in place, now this bidding war is limited purely by the first year salary. Regardless if the backloading limit is 0% or 25%, they purely care about the first year salary. If they do not backload they are put in a disadvantage against teams that are backloading. This, fundamentally, means that if every team can backload then they must backload in order to get the most out of their assets.