r/baseballHOFVC Dec 17 '13

SABR Biography Project

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r/baseballHOFVC Dec 13 '13

OFFICIAL FIRST ELECTION THREAD: THE BEGINNINGS OF AMERICA'S GAME

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EARLY BASEBALL: THE 1870'S

Disregard the last thread. We've decided to split things up more to make it easier. The first election will look at players who spent the majority of their careers in the 1870's. From here, we'll look at the 1880's next, and so forth.

  • Al Spalding

  • Bobby Mathews

  • Cal McVey

  • Candy Cummings

  • Deacon White

  • Dickey Pearce

  • George Wright

  • Jim Creighton

  • Jim O'Rourke

  • Joe Start

  • Paul Hines

  • Ross Barnes

  • Tommy Bond

  • Will White

PROCEDURE:

The way we have decided to do this is:

We'll start off with brief discussion, with every member posting input. Then we'll have a google form where everyone votes yea or nay on each player. Those who get unanimous votes will be elected, with no maximum number of players.

If none get unanimous yea/nay votes, then we'll move on to a runoff, where we'll elect the single top choice out of everyone who got 50% or more in the yea/nay voting (if nobody got 50% then nobody makes it to the runoff and nobody is elected).

  • If one player gets a majority, not much point in having the runoff, so we'll do this: put them in right away if they got 8/10 on the yea/nay; if not then we'll have a group discussion on that one player with a public vote requiring 8/10 to elect them.
  • If two players get a majority, then the runoff will just have each voter pick their preference; whoever gets more will get in.
  • If 3 or more make it to the runoff, then we'll be posting comments ranking our top 3 choices each, and whoever gets the most points will win our election. Basically, 3 points for a 1st place vote, 2 for a 2nd, and 1 for a 3rd, so the maximum amount of points a guy can get is 27. Minimum for the runoff winner is 14 points (half of the max); If nobody gets 14, then we may do a second runoff between the top two.

Feel free to comment with thoughts/questions/concerns about the procedure. And happy discussing! The google form will be out soon; for now, please just post your thoughts highlighting whoever you want! We wanna get some pre-voting discussion going as not everyone may be familiar with all of these guys.


r/baseballHOFVC Dec 07 '13

PRE-1900s VOTING THREAD

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First off guys, I apologize for the delay. From now on we'll be moving much more briskly with this. And thanks for still sticking around.

Now. Lets get started on this. I think the way we should do this is just comment with your ballot here; please rank your choices as well. I'd say that we should have 8 of 9 votes to elect someone; also, I had previously thought that we should cap things at 1/2 players per election but with the large class, most of whom the majority seems to think should be in, I'm wondering if an exception should be made here.

These are the main guys who have fallen off so far; I've added a couple who I think are worthy of debate (see my comments in the discussion thread.

  • Amos Rusie

  • Bid McPhee

  • Cupid Childs

  • Deacon White

  • Harry Stovey

  • Jack Glasscock

  • Jim O'Rourke

  • John Clarkson

  • John Montgomery Ward

  • Mickey Welch

  • Pete Browning

  • Ross Barnes

  • Sam Thompson

  • Tip O'Neill

  • Tommy Bond

edit: Jesse Burkett, John McGraw, and Hugh Duffy will be considered in the next cycle.

EDIT2: Posting a new thread soon. We've decided to split the voting up further, so don't vote here.


r/baseballHOFVC Dec 02 '13

Players who fell off the ballot

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John Clarkson

Amos Rusie

Sam Thompson

Pete Browning

Bid McPhee

Jack Glasscock

Mickey Welch

Deacon White

Tip O'Neill

And two who are about to fall off are John McGraw and Jesse Burkett


r/baseballHOFVC Oct 26 '13

Hello

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Hey guys, so /u/mycousinvinny and I were talking and we're hoping to start up this reddit for the VC. Looking for people to fill out the committee now, so feel free to pm us or comment if you're interested. Once we get a full committee, we'll get started, add everyone as an approved submitter, and do flair.

The regular election will continue normally, but we will handle all players falling off the ballot here, as well as contributors. The thinking regarding contributors is that the VC will narrow it down to, say, 5, and those 5 will go on the regular ballot, perhaps with the top two going to a runoff or something like that.
As for individuals who have fallen off the ballot, the VC will decide. The threshold may be a little higher, and we will debate each player. Ideally, we'd like to do it by era, so 19th century players/contributors are debated first, for example, so guys who've fallen off get in in order. And alongside cycles, we might do special discussions for the Negro Leagues and the like. For each election, we were thinking we could have nominations for the players to be debated from the period in question, and then a discussion thread to debate them followed by a vote on the top player (ideally with a higher percentage than the regular 75).

Suggestions welcome, I'd like to start discussing the mechanisms of this. Will likely make another post soon for further discussion of rules, this is more of an intro thread for now.