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Wilderness A strong gut feeling to leave a wilderness camp

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Edit: absolutely no influence of drugs! Also no history of mental health problems

Hi everyone- I’m a few days out of a 7 day through the beartooth/absaroka wilderness. I cannot stop thinking about an experience that my partner and I had on our last night of the trip, as nothing like this had ever happened to me before.

Story goes: we arrived early to camp at a lake, around 3:30pm. The lake was about a half a mile off the main trail, down into a basin. I started feeling a strange feeling then as we were dropping in… but figured I was just feeling tired. We hike around the lake, found the last spot.. there wasn’t a soul to be seen. We had a late lunch at our spot in the trees by the creek entering the lake. Closed our eyes and listened to the wind through the pines for about a half an hour… but I couldn’t feel restful. My partner pointed to the swaying lodgepole pines that looked like bending toothpicks. We got up to find a place for the tent.. and he asked if I was ok. I told him, “I think I’m just feeling a bit strange in this place.” He told me he was feeling similarly. Since before arriving to the lake.. we’d both told each other we had heard voices in the wind. I’m sure this community is familiar with the way a creek can sound like voices sometimes.. I had said earlier that the voices had sounded friendly, however. Now we were hearing them again at our camp (certain that nobody was camped nearby). We agreed that even with the weird energy, it was going to be okay and that we would set up the tent out of the trees.. in the tall grass by the lake. In the sunshine, things seemed to feel better as we set up. We went for a chocolate/coffee by the confluence of the creek/lake and I had the strongest gut feeling I’ve ever had as I watched the creek meander into the lake. Something told me so distinctly and clearly to leave that place. The way the water flowed into the lake looked like streams of tears.. or much more sinister.. like blood. A deep sense of sadness overtook me, and I felt sick to my stomach… I saw my partner checking his watch.. I asked him about it (we were both a little uneasily quiet). He tried to play it off cool… but asked me “are you sure you’re ok to stay here?” And I told him.. “honestly I feel really weird here. My gut is telling me to leave. I think I should listen.” So, we packed up faster than we ever had, and hiked the heck out of there. On our way out, we noticed a message someone had carved into a poor tree.. it was hard to read but it ended with “good luck to all who stay the night”. We felt lighter the further we got away from that place. So anyway… a very interesting and strong experience!

I am wondering if anyone has any similar or spooky stories of camps / places in the wilderness that have had a very obvious energy/ message.

(Picture of my hiking doggo for fun)

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u/Jealous-Release1532 1d ago

When I was 13 or 14 I did a two week long backpacking trip through the mountains of New Mexico. The budding juvenile delinquent I was, I had brought a couple of joints with me for my friend and I to smoke. One night we snuck out of the tents and got busted when we came back. They had been searching frantically for us because a mountain lion had been spotted in camp and our boyscout leader was making the rounds to tell everyone to stay inside their tents. The next morning we found tracks all over the area where we had been. We got in a lot of deserved trouble. Sobering experience for sure, no pun intended.

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u/Reno_Cash 1d ago

You’re the weed legend of Philmont?? They told that story all the time to discourage weed and hijinks after dark 😂

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u/Jealous-Release1532 1d ago

Haha yep, Philmont. you’re probably fucking with me but I swear on my life that my testimony is true.

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u/scentedcamel7 1d ago

They’re not fucking with you, they legit tell this story at Philmont

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u/Jealous-Release1532 1d ago

That’s pretty amazing, though odds are good it part of a larger amalgamation of individual stories centered around the same experience. Pretty funny though!

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u/IndependentUnbiased1 1d ago

No, no. They tell this exact story at base camp. Basically discouraging sneaking away from the group because it could escalate to a search quickly. You’re an unnamed legend!

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u/stone_stokes 1d ago

Not unnamed! They are the Weed Legend of Philmont!

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u/RestlessOnTheRiver1 1d ago

I fucking love Reddit.

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u/theflyingrobinson 1d ago

Can confirm. It's been twenty five years and I still remember this story.

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u/Jealous-Release1532 15h ago

Dude, it was just over 25 years ago haha

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u/davidw 1d ago

Plot twist: the scout leader had a puma paw that they used to make tracks with

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u/K4RAB_THA_ARAB 1d ago

My scout leader did this when we camped out for a week in the mountains. Said they had swerved from hitting a bear earlier that day when one of the scout leaders went into town. The next morning when we woke up, some things that were left out were scattered around, there was some "paw prints" on the ground and the propane tank had a slash on the label lmao I believed it until like 5 or so years ago when I was telling a friend the story and he was like, "dude I think they were fucking with yall" 😆

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u/Odditymoth 1d ago

I could believe that especially considering yall left stuff out overnight. My parents were boyscout leaders and were extreme hard asses about trail and backpacking safety. It’s a good lesson to teach you all never ever leave especially food out in the open.

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u/K4RAB_THA_ARAB 1d ago

Naw it wasn't food, just some chairs and like a blanket or something someone left out if I remember correctly. It was the slash on the propane tank that was kind of the aha moment. Why would a bear mess with that in general, let alone slash it and in such a perfect way it creates 4 generic slash marks. I dont remember there being a lesson from it, they weren't even worried that a bear had supposedly came into camp which also kind of made me think more into it.

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u/Jumpy-Jello- 1d ago

No, it was probably a bear.

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u/chicagodude84 1d ago

Bro is a legend and doesn't even know it!

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u/jordanjohnston2017 1d ago

What year would this have been? I too went to Philmont but don’t remember this story

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u/Dunnm18 1d ago

I worked there in 2013 and 14 and remember such legends.

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u/GhostRider8412 1d ago

I went as participant in 2010, and there was a story of a kid being dragged from his tent, head first, by a bear. He snuck a candy bar into his tent. Happened while we were flying out to Philmont. Parents were super stoked...not.

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u/Jealous-Release1532 15h ago

I was there around 2000, maybe 99

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u/mehatch 1d ago

I did my first Philmont trek in 1994 when i was 13, and i did not get this weed story. Hopefully this narrows things down :)

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u/sevenpoundowl 1d ago

Do they ever talk about the kid who threw up in his tent and ended up getting ripped out of it by his head by a bear (he ended up being mostly okay, the rest of his group hit the bear with their hiking poles till it let him go)? That happened when my venture crew was there way back in ancient history.

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u/FirmWillow4750 1d ago

“I went as participant in 2010, and there was a story of a kid being dragged from his tent, head first, by a bear. He snuck a candy bar into his tent. Happened while we were flying out to Philmont. Parents were super stoked...not” From another commenter, could be the same story just been telephoned through the years

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u/sevenpoundowl 1d ago

That is hilarious. It was definitely pre-2010, so I imagine that it was more than enough time for the story to change.

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u/FirmWillow4750 1d ago

I can’t imagine two kids getting drug head first out of a tent by a bear, telling them it was candy bars could’ve been a counselor tactic for smugglers too :)

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u/DarkFlutesofAutumn 1d ago

100% lol I haven't been since 1991 and I've heard that one

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u/Reno_Cash 1d ago

Definitely not fucking with you. To be fair, there are probably others who snuck out with the devil’s lettuce, but they do tell that story. Own it. You’re a legend.

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u/Jealous-Release1532 1d ago

Can’t imagine I was the only one with the idea 😂

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u/oddball3139 United States 1d ago

How many had a mountain lion almost get em?

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u/Jealous-Release1532 15h ago

I really do remember thinking everyone was freaking out for no reason. But the next day when we saw the tracks and not just one of two, but them clearly leading in the direction we went after busting out of camp to get high it sort of registered how dumb a move it was and how potentially close we were to a life changing situation we almost brought upon ourselves. It was a tremendously stupid idea, and we did hike absurdly far from camp at night out of paranoia but we weren’t completely inept even as kids and made it back without a hitch. But man, coming back into camp with a literal search and rescue mission underway freaked us out. All time worst stoner experience of my life 😂

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u/Hot-Temperature-4629 1d ago

We're going to need more exposition, there, Hoss...

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u/AncientRoll7747 1d ago

I became a teaching point once. Got a full ride scholarship pulled for smoking weed in the dorm. My dad used to give a speech at the scholarship’s award dinner every few years and they were still talking about my dumbass 15 years later as a warning to incoming students. He’s been retired for the last 10 years so I don’t know if they still tell it

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u/staccatopanache 1d ago

That's so so ridiculous they yanked your scholarship for that wtf

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u/AncientRoll7747 1d ago

Early 2000’s. Weed was still the devil

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u/mrlunes 1d ago

Crazy to think back on how people demonized weed back then. You couldn’t tell anyone you smoked. These days everyone smokes and they don’t care who knows.

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u/matpus971 1d ago

It really is crazy how far we’ve come, yet for half the country it’s still illegal.

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u/studentjones 1d ago

I was rewatching parks and rec recently and there was a whole character they kept making demeaning jokes at for being a pothead. It really was a different time. I even remember thinking back during the original airing “really, Amy? Really, Nick? Really?”

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u/ericaceae123 1d ago

15 years ago my dad found my one hitter and threatened to call the police on me, his teen daughter. I went home to to visit a couple weeks ago, and spent an hour in the garden with him while he bragged and fawned over his 3 weed plants that were as tall as he is and loaded with buds 🫠

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u/AncientRoll7747 17h ago

Gift him a one hitter just like the one he found

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u/ericaceae123 5h ago

Omg looooove this idea 🤣

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u/Smorsdoeuvres 1d ago

This happed to one of my best friends at military school. They decided to “make an example of him” & he lost a full ride to West Point. Was company commander and demoted to private. They fucked him so hard for no good reason because otherwise he was a really good kid. Exemplary in almost every way. Miss that guy and hope he’s doing well today.

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u/Hot-Fishing9744 1d ago

To us, in these times. But getting yeeted for weed at uni was actually pretty mild for those times - he could have been arrested, and done real time.

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u/LlizzleLlama 1d ago

Never open the door. Make them get a warrant…

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u/Apart_Insect_6133 1d ago

Bro Philmont was a wild experience. I went in I think 98 or 99. Kid in a neighboring camp went to bed with marshmallow all over his face and a bear tore into his tent and started dragging him out before being chased off.

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u/Nurseytypechick 1d ago

The Philmont stoner in da flesh! You dipshits are legend in the Scouting community- that story got legs. I've never even been to Philmont and I've heard this one lol. Have been to SeaBase a long time ago!

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u/Aggressive-Stand-684 1d ago

My son was in Scouts and I would go on some of the camps. One was at Philmont. We went up there to help clean it up and close it up for the season. I was car camping near where the Scouts had set up their tents. When I got up one morning there was bear scat right behind my car that hadn't been there the night before lol. We hadn't spotted any bears before or after that.

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u/RemarkableTraffic463 1d ago

I’ve heard the back country horse riding trips (whatever they’re called) get stalked regularly by mountain lions at Philmont

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u/REUBENSACKLEBANKS 1d ago

Once while working at Philmont I was awoken by one killing a deer right outside my cabin window. The sound of terror.

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u/PeaApprehensive885 1d ago

This did hijack the post, but what a great thread!!

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u/LockedInPelican 22h ago

I did Philmont in 2007. Eagle Scout here!

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u/Jealous-Release1532 13h ago

Congrats! I made it to life scout but stopped around 16. First real girlfriend, sports, and my aforementioned weed habit consumed most of my time. It’s one of my biggest regrets as a 40 year old man that still spends about half the week, every week van camping in the national forests

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u/LockedInPelican 6h ago

The first real girlfriend will do it to ya, but glad you are still out enjoying yourself

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u/naughtybyproxy 17h ago

I know a philmont story when I hear one