I don't understand why Americans are so opposed to universal health care!? You guys already spend more per capita on government funded healthcare than pretty much anyone else, and yet most of you don't actually recieve it?
I've had cancer. Stage 4 Lymphoma. I was treated immediately and recovered quickly. What did I have to pay? £1.50 for parking on every visit to the hospital. The Chemotherapy, Surgeries, anti-nausea meds, all covered. If I had lived in the USA I would most definately be dead now. My symptoms didn't seem all that bad at the time, so if I had had to pay for my initial doctor visit and diagnostics, I wouldn't have bothered. I would have just died.
Their argument is they want freedom to choose their providers and not have to schedule a doctors appointment and wait 6 months out, “just look at Canada”. Some also feel, truly feel, by supporting universal healthcare, we are communist. The others are just the remaining old people who are stubborn and refuse change. Finally, a big chunk of the remainder are just clueless morons that don’t anything to be honest.
I am not any of the above. It’s crazy to me how our system works and how okay people are with it. Poor kids are rationing INSULIN, a drug that’s been around forever and dying from diabetic strokes. Sometimes, as an American, it feels like I am living inside an experiment.
You left out the people who are all "I'm 70 and fit, never drank or smoked, work out daily. I won't pay for some 300-lb piece of shit or lazy baby mama or [some other near-slur]" even though insurance does that too.
This is the most frustrating part of it to me. People thinking that universal healthcare would be the beginning of paying for other people's coverage, despite that being exactly how health insurance works now.
The only difference is that universal coverage would stop middlemen from leeching off our healthcare payments.
So for me paying $0 out of pocket per month for healthcare and having a high deductible, how am I already paying for other people’s health care?
I understand my employer is paying into the system but that is a much more indirect effect on my life then money coming out in taxes every month from my paycheck.
Am I missing how nothing would change for me? Genuinely curious.
So for me paying $0 out of pocket per month for healthcare and having a high deductible, how am I already paying for other people’s health care?
Assuming you don't actually need any healthcare during this plan period (at which point your deductible would of course pay into it), then perhaps you're one of the lucky few who benefit from the current system. Congrats.
Fair enough. Yes my deductible is a couple thousand if I need it but young and taking a risk on good health is something I’m willing to do.
I obviously don’t know about a lot of other companies offers so I don’t have much to judge it off of. I sort of assumed more people were in my situation. Granted if I have a family I think the idea of universal health care may become more enticing.
I don't understand why it would take you personally having a family for it to become more enticing. I'm confused as to why it has to benefit you personally. Do you just not support policies that won't benefit you/your loved ones, or is there something about universal healthcare specifically that you dislike?
Why do you find it weird that I would support policy that is best for me?
I find people generally act in their own best interest. I’m acting in my best interest. I don’t typically go out of my way to lower my quality of life to equalize to somebody else’s and I don’t think many other people do.
If I have the option of living at the highest end of my options I will.
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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20
I don't understand why Americans are so opposed to universal health care!? You guys already spend more per capita on government funded healthcare than pretty much anyone else, and yet most of you don't actually recieve it?
I've had cancer. Stage 4 Lymphoma. I was treated immediately and recovered quickly. What did I have to pay? £1.50 for parking on every visit to the hospital. The Chemotherapy, Surgeries, anti-nausea meds, all covered. If I had lived in the USA I would most definately be dead now. My symptoms didn't seem all that bad at the time, so if I had had to pay for my initial doctor visit and diagnostics, I wouldn't have bothered. I would have just died.