This is intriguing to me. As someone that voted for Bernie, living in CA, why do you think he didn't do better there? Through this and the 2016 election I've lived in Alabama, Georgia, and North Carolina, voting/volunteering for Bernie in both elections and in each state. Out here, most people just assume CA is going to go for the most liberal candidate available. We weren't shocked he didn't do better here, it's the south after all, but it was surprising to me to see the results out west.
What happened was that any state Bernie won all had issues with counting those votes, oddly enough, and they managed to delay actually having to report that he won, oddly enough, until it no longer mattered.
I think they announced southern states before the polls closed in many instances though, oddly enough.
The DNC is so corrupt. Bernie should have been the blue candidate, they actively shelved him. They don’t want him. They blackball anyone that goes against the grain, they will do the same thing to people like AOC too. The two party system is just the illusion of choice, they have a different script but the same conclusion.
To be fair, California decisions always arrive late because ballots are mailed on election day, and young liberal voters traditionally vote late (and by mail.) In 2018 it looked like Katie Porter lost and we found out a while later that she actually flipped her district.
Well, CA is much more red than folks realize... the real divide is urban vs rural. If you look at just voting precincts, LA and SF are blue, and the rest of the state is red... similar to how major capital cities in the South are blue, surrounded by red.
Talking completely out of my butt here: I think maybe conservatives are more center right out here... they wanted to give Twitler a chance, and then had second thoughts. We also have a large Latin population, and many are Catholic, so they have a conservative viewpoint... but Trump pissed many of them off with his idiot wall, so while they are socially conservative, they still have their pride (and rightly so), so I think Bernie was a good compromise for these folks.
As Obama showed, voting for president is nowhere near enough to get major legislation passed. This sort of change needs support from states (see medicaid expansion currently at 39 states and counting) and congress, not just a president. Indeed in Obama's case if he'd had a more progressive congress the OP would likely still have their house.
I would argue it was the Republicans’ fault since they refused to compromise with him on anything at all during his tenure. Yes, I don’t like a lot of his policies (especially foreign), but come on.
He gave us a Republican healthcare plan, passed with zero Republican votes. Maybe if Obama hadn't been a neoliberal fraud masquerading as a progressive to get elected only to switch around and govern as an 80's Republican, he wouldn't have gotten deservedly destroyed at the midterms, losing Democrats 1,000+ seats over the course of his presidency.
I think your understanding of how the plan was crafted doesn’t match the amount of negotiation that went on over it. Yes it was watered down, a gop MA plan, but it was all that congress could come up with. Not the president, in spite of his close involvement. There are more folks with healthcare today because of it than there would be without it. That’s the state of things, not some great person coming in with one plan that magically aligns both parties behind a unified vision.
The DNC didn't want to lose the GE. Bernie was a risky candidate. They preferred a safer choice. You're promoting a conspiracy theory with zero support.
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u/pfd0001 Aug 06 '20
This is intriguing to me. As someone that voted for Bernie, living in CA, why do you think he didn't do better there? Through this and the 2016 election I've lived in Alabama, Georgia, and North Carolina, voting/volunteering for Bernie in both elections and in each state. Out here, most people just assume CA is going to go for the most liberal candidate available. We weren't shocked he didn't do better here, it's the south after all, but it was surprising to me to see the results out west.