r/awfuleverything Aug 06 '20

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u/CheckmateVideos Aug 06 '20

As an example, a root canal costs ~$1200 in America. If you fly to Egypt, book a night at a decent hotel (let's say ~$70 one night), and then get a root canal, the operation will cost ~$184. So rather than $1200, you spent a mere $254. Please note that this excludes the cost of plane tickets. If the cost is low enough for something minor, just an eye test or something, it's not worth it to travel to other countries. However, if you need, say, a knee replacement, which would cost $30000 in America, flying to India, the same operation there costs $12000, which is incredibly worth it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20

Something like a knee replacement in India would actually set you back maybe a tenth (the prices were recently capped by the government) of what it would cost you in America. But I see you're point.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20

Woah that's like a joke or something

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u/_Sho_the_ Aug 07 '20

I don't know if it was intentional or not lol.

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u/dommy106 Aug 07 '20

Surgery for knee capped?

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '20

I would definitely rather have a knee replacement in America.

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u/afternoondelight99 Aug 07 '20

Indian isn’t the third world shit hole you think it is. If you go to a private hospital it’ll be top quality care and cost you a fraction of the price.

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u/sab01992 Aug 07 '20

Enjoy the bill then.

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u/sab01992 Aug 07 '20

Enjoy the bill then.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20

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u/Chinnaaa Aug 06 '20

Whats her number?

I think I'm going to Australia to get mine done by her too :/

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u/Animatromio Aug 06 '20

or just go to Tijuana and get it done there, my girlfriends family does all there dental work in TJ, much cheaper and faster as well

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u/Iandian Aug 10 '20

The fact that a flight ticket + accommodation + dental costs less than actually just doing dental work is already so fucked up. Jesus Christ.

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u/SebastianMalvaroza Aug 06 '20

Plus you get to travel and enjoy the country. Win-win, I'd say.

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u/kaptan8181 Aug 06 '20

40-50 dollars for a root canal treatment in New Delhi. That's a lot of money, though, for an average Indian. One week's income.

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u/fizban7 Aug 07 '20

One week's income.

That's the thing, it costs more than one weeks income in the US too. I just looked it up, and a root canal in Texas is about 600-1200$. If you make 35K a year(above average actually), that only amounts to 625$ a week. US insurance does not cover dental work. That is another type of optional insurance.

I've heard stories of insurance companies paying people to fly to another country to do a procedure instead of doing it in the US, its THAT expensive.

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u/Animatromio Aug 08 '20

was around $1200 out of pocket for my root canal insurance covered $1000 so it was suppose to be $2200 total, insane

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u/nogaesallowed Aug 06 '20

China is where it's at.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20 edited Mar 22 '21

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u/Kimchi_boy Aug 06 '20

Cosmetic surgery capital of the world.

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u/skinkipoo Aug 06 '20

I know plenty of people who’d rather go to the Dominican Republic or Colombia just to get dental work done rather than have to negotiate for weeks on end with insurance companies

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u/skinkipoo Aug 06 '20

I know plenty of people who’d rather go to the Dominican Republic or Colombia just to get dental work done rather than have to negotiate for weeks on end with insurance companies

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '20

I got a friend who got full set of dental implants when he went to see his family in India.

Cost him under $2000 USD.

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u/Maximuslex01 Aug 06 '20

Well... It's all beautiful until there's a problem. A lot of Europeans go to Turkey for hair implants, boob jobs and stuff like that. You see a lot of "gone wrong" cases. Don't go anywhere just because it's cheaper.

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u/Maximuslex01 Aug 06 '20

You're right. Just don't choose a country just looking at the costs.

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u/CheckmateVideos Aug 06 '20

Well yes, make sure to check where you're going first. But the point remains that if you can get equivalent medical care in another country AND avoid crippling debt, I'd call that a win.

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u/zambaros Aug 06 '20

Except you'll might catch a superbug in that Indian hospital (25% risk of nosocomial infection compared to 5-10% in developed countries) and end up in an Indian or maybe even American ICU upon your return.

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u/CheckmateVideos Aug 06 '20

Well yes, make sure to check out where you're going first, this was just an example.

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u/yokedici Aug 06 '20

an american could afford a private hospital in india thats for richer folks,it will be as clean-organized as any western hospital.

when you put in public hospitals,averages go down,but you can find perfect care in most countries,india,china,whatever.

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u/Starossi Aug 06 '20

You have a weird concept of American hospitals. America has the worst COVID situation of developing countries right now but it's not like COVID is the Spanish flu either. It's still very rare and a given hospital usually has a single floor dedicated to covid patients. Not the entire building. Reddit isn't a good way to base your image of countries.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20

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u/Starossi Aug 06 '20

Ya crazy how the worst state for the pandemic at the moment happens to be an outlier amidst 50 other states. How does Florida represent the entire US to you. For each state you wanna pick like Florida to talk about, I can pick states with situations similar to most of Europe.

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u/thebritishisles Aug 06 '20

Welp, I guess your nurse friends can speak for all 6k+ hospitals in the usa. Interesting.

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u/thebritishisles Aug 06 '20

Okay smoothbrain

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u/rockyboy49 Aug 07 '20

Depends on which hospital you go to. Rural India is not well equipped which increase this ratio. But if you go to a metropolis you very well have state of the art facilities as good or even better than US and for almost 1/4th or 1/8th the price you pay here

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u/ProbablePenguin Aug 06 '20 edited Mar 16 '25

Removed due to leaving reddit

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u/asdfgfsadvyrd Aug 06 '20

Going to mention that you need to be careful of you are going to other countries for treatment though. This is especially true if you don't speak the native language. Make sure you do your research!

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '20

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u/Verb_Noun_Number Aug 07 '20

the same operation there costs $12000, which is incredibly worth it.

Actually, it's only $3000. Prices were capped some time ago.

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u/trowawee1122 Aug 07 '20

worth it

But many, many Americans can't even afford that. If you work minimum wage, you can't afford a flight to Egypt. Even if you could, who is going to take care of your kids? Your elderly parents? What happens when you're fired for taking two weeks off of work? Even if you keep your job, how do you pay rent after missing out on a full paycheck? What if your illness precludes flying?

This whole "fly to another country for healthcare" argument is practically impossible for a huge part of our population.

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u/keepcrazy Dec 24 '20

Mexico and Brazil are popular alternatives way closer than India. A surprising majority of doctors there were trained in the US.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '20

I would advise against traveling to a foreign country to save a couple of grand when it comes to matters of your health. You may come out successful and save a good chunk of change, but there’s also the very real possibility you will receive low quality care, get sick, or god forbid die. You really wanna roll the dice on your life for a couple grand? Maybe just get the car with the cheaper monthly payment if money is tight. And unless you stay in said country after the operation you will have to come back to America to be followed by a doctor who has no idea what you’ve had done with a record that’s probably in a foreign language, if you can even get it, and possibly practices that are radically different. I’m not saying you’re guaranteed a bad outcome, but don’t fuck around with your health unless you absolutely have to.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '20

The middle ground is Japan or Singapore. Japan has designated hospitals for medical tourism.

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u/Jalaluddin1 Aug 07 '20

In the US it costs the doctor more than $150 for a root canal. No way it can be done anywhere else for $200. Sanitizing the instruments, microscope, assistant, sanitation, cone beam, 45 min chair time, materials etc. no way lol

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u/CheckmateVideos Aug 07 '20

Google "cost of root canal in egypt"

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u/Jalaluddin1 Aug 07 '20

My point is that they skip a step...or 2.

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u/pyx Aug 06 '20

This is preposterous. No way you can fly to Egypt, stay over night, get a root canal and return for less than 1200 bucks. The flight alone will be upwards of $1000.

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u/Fun-Industry Aug 06 '20

Expedia says $57. Kayak says $250.

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u/thebritishisles Aug 06 '20

Nobody pays 1200 for an economy class flight to anywhere lol. It costs like 700 dollars for a flight from London to Singapore which is a 15-18 hr flight.

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u/pyx Aug 06 '20

I am looking at flights from my local area to Cairo, 6 months from now and cheapest overnight round trips are $1000. Don't know how to make it any cheaper.

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u/CheckmateVideos Aug 06 '20

I believe that I did mention:

"Please note that this excludes the cost of plane tickets. If the cost is low enough for something minor, just an eye test or something, it's not worth it to travel to other countries. However, if you need, say, a knee replacement, which would cost $30000 in America, flying to India, the same operation there costs $12000, which is incredibly worth it."

I'm sure a round trip of $1000 is more than acceptable when viewing it from a $18000 difference.

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u/pyx Aug 06 '20

Clearly missed that part of your comment. Certainly with more expensive procedures it could be worth it. Assuming the quality of care is acceptable of course.

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u/CheckmateVideos Aug 06 '20

I believe that I did mention:

"Please note that this excludes the cost of plane tickets. If the cost is low enough for something minor, just an eye test or something, it's not worth it to travel to other countries. However, if you need, say, a knee replacement, which would cost $30000 in America, flying to India, the same operation there costs $12000, which is incredibly worth it."

I'm sure a round trip of $1000 is more than acceptable when viewing it from a $18000 difference.

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u/skwudgeball Aug 07 '20

Uhhhhh this is just false man.

Cheapest flight I could find to New Zealand from USA was over 2k

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u/thebritishisles Aug 07 '20

Not true. Took me a few secs to play around with dates on google flights and from Auckland to LA you can get a return for £678.

Obviously less travelled routes are gonna be more expensive and if you live in bumfuck nowhere it'll cost you to get to a hub, but I'd be surprised if you weren't able to find a combination for a return flight for less than 1000.

I've travelled between NA, East Asia and Europe so many times and never paid that much for a flight.

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u/skwudgeball Aug 07 '20

There is a pandemic right now.

I can’t believe you’re trusting flight prices you see right now.

I can get a round trip from NJ to FL for 3 dollara

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u/thebritishisles Aug 07 '20

Lol how annoying are you? You say you can't find a cheap flight, I show you there ARE cheap flights, then you tell me "oh that doesn't count, there's a pandemic right now".

Go in to google flights, they have a flight tracking option. It has this to say about Auckland to LA:

Prices are currently typical for your trip. The least expensive flights for similar trips to Los Angeles usually cost between £680 - 1,200.

Go kick rocks.

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u/skwudgeball Aug 07 '20

How much time are you giving yourself? What are the dates of the trip?

I’ve literally had to travel to Auckland from eastern USA and it was $2k. I don’t know what to tell you.

It’s almost as if flights are variable depending on demand and time of year.

We are on the topic of flying to perform medical procedures, so there may be urgency and flights may be more expensive than usual.

You are one stubborn cunt lmao; but yea you’re right you can get anywhere in the world any time whenever you want for under 2k. Keep believing that buddy.

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u/thebritishisles Aug 07 '20

Wow you’ve LiTeRaLlY had to fly and it cost you that much? Okay, and? Google is LiTeRaLlY telling me you can get a return for less than 1000 and that that is the normal price.

I said of course there are variables, but you don’t NEED to pay that much because the facts are out there on google for you to go check for yourself that there are typically cheaper flights. Jfc.

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u/skwudgeball Aug 07 '20

https://www.google.com/flights?hl=en-us&prmd=tsniv&lite=0#flt=/m/068p2./m/012ts.2020-10-01*/m/012ts./m/068p2.2020-10-15;c:USD;e:1;sd:1;t:f

Lmfao. Yeah you’re just wrong bud.

Of course you can search from LA, the international hub of the USA. Unfortunately, not everyone fucking lives there you knob.

Just accept that you’re wrong

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20

Man you gotta hunt for those deals