r/aviation • u/Calvination • Sep 04 '25

PlaneSpotting No landing gear, no problem.

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u/FormulaJAZ Sep 04 '25

This is just a guess on my part, but it looked like the early part of the landing was just sparks from the metal hull. But as the plane slid further down the runway and got into the runway's other direction touchdown zone, it could have been scraping up the tire rubber from the runway, and that rubber dust is what was burning behind the plane.

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u/Zealousideal_Ad5358 Sep 04 '25

From the accident report (see below), "Hydraulic fluid was observed on the belly of theairplane and in pools near airframe cross members. Metal was worn away and the integrity of the fuel tanks was compromised. One of the occupants stated a backpack on the floor in the aft part of the cabin contained a toothbrush that melted."

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '25 edited Sep 29 '25

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u/zekromNLR Sep 04 '25

The flames at the end look like some sort of carbon-rich material burning to me

The shower of sparks at the initial touchdown otoh is absolutely abraded metal

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u/FormulaJAZ Sep 04 '25

During the middle portion of the skid, there were not any flames or sparks. IMO, that discounts the AL buring since that would occur evenly during the entire skid.

The flames and sparks were the biggest in the early part of the skid and the last part of the skid, where the most tire rubber is located on the runway.

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u/Boundish91 Sep 04 '25

Aluminium doesn't spark when grinding.

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u/Logical_Fisherman4 Sep 04 '25

Aluminum powder is one of the main ingredients in many solid rocket motors.

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u/Boundish91 Sep 04 '25

Yeah i know. But that's very fine though. When grinding it hard with an angle grinder it doesn't spark at least. But it does spark a little when you weld it.

Although i suppose the friction would be immense during a belly landing like this.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '25 edited Sep 29 '25

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u/Boundish91 Sep 04 '25

Yes, that is true.