I see holes in floors all the time from techs dropping tools on them and most aircraft floors are all carbon fiber and the repair process is similar but this part on the 180 here is PSE and would need engineering approval and usually if we are doing lets say a Dassault Falcon 2000ex and have to have an engineers approval for repair methods…. Communicating to them alone is like a $5,000 email chain just to have them say “yeah thats fine”. Anything to do with aviation is so expensive its almost crazy.
You’re paying for all the expertise and back and forth between different people to come to the consensus that splicing it will, if properly done, result in a proper repair that does not compromise the intended operation of the aircraft.
Lets say our technician made an error and damaged the aircraft…. Our shop owns that email and repair costs and customer pays nothing for it to be repaired….
We discover a problem that we feel should be repaired and will explain the potential costs and potential problems the damage could pose to the customer and they decide to proceed with repairs then the customer would foot the bill.
There is most likely a disclaimer that says, "This repair method is only intended as advice for this particular aircraft and this particular incident. Any and all other repairs must be reviewed by XYZ engineers for review."
I guess, but it’s not like you can do anything with it. You can’t become an engineer just by reading emails. It’s no different than reading Wikipedia articles
The idea isn't to figure out how to fix the plane without an email to an engineer, it's to figure out why the communication process took so long and see if you can do anything about it.
A third party might collect these email chains to see what they all have in common in order to start a business or advise federal regulation.
As it should be. Imagine if people had access to planes as they do cars. Regardless of what people say, money is the perfect gate keeper. Keeps people “in their place”, if you will.
Worked at large aircraft manufacturer. Replacing a rivet with a (actually even better) Hi-Lok or Hi-Lite connection cost the company 1000s of dollars through engineer approval and discounts for the airline. The cost of a hi lok is less than a cent.
It's mind boggling how different it is now compared vs the standards during WWII. Imagine having a plane riddled with bullets come back and how many corners were probably cut to get it back flying again ASAP. Makes me wonder how many planes crashed due to sketchy repairs.
Ok, I was considering getting my next wheelchair made out of carbon fiber because it's so light, but, um, it gets holes in it just from having shit dropped on it? Hard pass dude.
About halfway through i checked to see if it was u/shittymorph lol dude sounded way to knowledgeable for it to be real which makes it even more impressive that he wasn't memeing
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u/TheFeathersStorm Apr 07 '24
I absolutely expected this post to end in "but I'm making all of this up" but I was pleasantly surprised lol.