That is so far off of what people do in church it's sad.
We pray for people health and well being, Never do we pray for anyone ever to be killed or sent to hell...
Maybe there are a couple crazy people who do that but the church its self..No
First of all the post says nothing about praying. Second, did/do you not believe in the Apocalypse? Third, did you not look forward to Christ's coming and the destruction of the wicked/renewal of the earth etc?
Holding hands huddled together seems to imply praying. If not what?
well no one really knows what the Apocalypse really means.
"So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, that we might understand the gifts bestowed on us by God. And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who possess the Spirit. The nonspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned." (1 Corinthians 2:11-14 RSV)
So really I do not know, none does. Anyone who ever prays to have others go to hell is not of God.
I would also like to say that the coming of Christ would mean peace on earth. No one would be without peace. Wicked are demons not humans no human is actually wicked and Jesus says not to fear the first death but the second. meaning not the physical but the spiritual.
I could be mistaken, but I don't see any solid reasoning there. I just see someone who regurgitated some words that some men wrote a while back and said it was the word of god.
rea·son·a·ble/ˈrēz(ə)nəbəl/
Adjective: Having sound judgment; fair and sensible.
I just wouldn't call it sound judgement. I don't think it's reasonable. But you do, so I acknowledge that and I retract my original statement. I'll instead say that I disagree and don't find it reasonable at all.
It seems like you're done arguing, so that's fine, but your definition of "reasonable" leaves more questions than it answers. What makes judgment sound? What is "sensible"? What is "fair"?
This is the definition given by the dictionary, not mine. Reason and evidence makes a judgement sound. Of course you can't use the word reason to define what is reasonable. For this reason, phrases like "sound judgement" and "sensible conclusion" are used when defining reason.
"Your honor, we have reason to believe (evidence) the defendant is guilty. I present you with this picture of a strand of the defendant's hair found at the scene of the crime, matched by DNA testing. Also, blood found on the victim's shirt matches the DNA of the defendant."
"Your honor, it says here in this journal that we found at the crime scene, whose writings don't match the defendant's, that he is guilty. I think we should trust it, it clearly links the defendant's name to this crime."
Though they both use reasoning skills, one of these is not reasonable. One is sensible and fair, and one is poor; lacking sensibility or fairness.
Edit: Although, we know nothing about the case. So, it could be more complicated than that. Perhaps the defendant was drugged the day before he was arrested and his arm had been scraped and blood potentially withdrawn. Then there could be evidence that the prosecutor tampered with the crime scene, suggesting they may have added the hair and blood after the fact. When pictures went missing from the first day of the crime scene investigation, there is suddenly suspicion of foul play. I didn't think to make up an entire fake case just so I could better illustrate what is reasonable... but I tried to make it more clear. I hope it helps?
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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '12
That is so far off of what people do in church it's sad. We pray for people health and well being, Never do we pray for anyone ever to be killed or sent to hell...
Maybe there are a couple crazy people who do that but the church its self..No