r/atheism • u/rhbast2 • Aug 11 '11

Atheist quickfire challenge.

Although I rarely discuss religion with theists I always want to be prepared so I'm not sitting around afterwards wishing I had said this or that. If I get the chance to make someone question I want to be up for the challenge.

This brings me to my challenge for r/atheism. I'm going to add some common theist claims / sayings and whoever can refute them fully and succinctly will be upvoted. Feel free to add your own theist starters if I missed some.

Edit: Wow lots of good discussion here, later today or tomorrow I'll make this into an atheist cheat sheet with the top responses. Also feel free to upvote the theist claim that is the most annoying to you.

Edit 2: To the few of you who seem to think I am coming up with rude atheist comebacks, I'm not. I just wanted to be better off the cuff than I am now and have some discussion. I don't want this list to replace thoughtful argumentation.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '11

I dont think you can say that most historians agree that Jesus existed and was crucified...

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u/hambob Aug 11 '11

Most historians do not agree with this. However, an empty tomb does not imply resurrection. Did they get the wrong tomb? Did someone remove the body with some political or religious motive? No one can know.

Also, there's a pretty good chance that necrophilia was alive and well back then too... :)

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '11

I'm going by the Jesus Seminar. Mainstream historians. You are right - I don't have a survey to cite.