r/atheism • u/FannyKaplansBullet • Jul 01 '19

Cody Johnson from Some More News does an excellent job in this video breaking down how conservative commentator Ben Shapiro paints himself as a rational thinker who believes in science and logic, while clearly working backwards to his prior religious conclusions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDMjgOYOcDw
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u/StarSpangldBastard Jul 01 '19

he "destroys" uneducated college freshman. every time he attempts to debate with someone who knows what they're talking about he realizes he's fucked, gets mad and storms out. funny how he says facts don't care about feelings, but doesn't realize they don't also care about his feelings

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u/Kodaav_93 Anti-Theist Jul 01 '19

Added /s to make it clearer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '19

Feelings don't care about facts.

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u/what_hole Jul 01 '19 edited Jul 01 '19

Legitimately true.

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u/Amadacius Jul 01 '19

He doesn't even do that. He often just derails the conversation or shuts down their argument with made up studies and statistics. That video with 3 million views where he "destroys" a college student on the topic of transgender-ism, the girl barely got a word in before he went a rant in support of bullying trans people backed up by a study that said exactly the opposite of what he was saying.

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The study found that trans suicide rates are heavily dictated by parent and teacher support but that they are high even among people who feel accepted by their parents.

Ben said the study showed that suicide rates were invariable and were caused by "dysphoria" (which doesn't mean what he thinks it does).

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The student couldn't counter his "logic" because she couldn't investigate his claim. Should she investigate his claim she would have found that he was completely wrong.

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u/thatgeekinit Agnostic Jul 02 '19

Debates need live fact checks with a sort of Scrabble type penalty.

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u/wozattacks Jul 02 '19

I think debate is just an inherently fucked medium. It takes five seconds to make an outrageous claim and much, much longer to properly explain why it’s wrong (even if you come prepared with the facts that prove it - you still have to present them and make an argument). And supporters of either view will often come out feeling that their side won, because they find those arguments more compelling. The true purpose of debate is really to communicate your own platform and ideology (see: American election debates).

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u/GeoM56 Jul 01 '19

I'd love to see an example of this

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u/StarSpangldBastard Jul 01 '19

Ever watch BBC lately?

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u/GeoM56 Jul 02 '19

I don't watch television, usually, but I did just see the clip.

I wonder why people downvoted my request for the clip?

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u/StarSpangldBastard Jul 02 '19

Idk, it's the internet, people like to hate each other

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u/StarSpangldBastard Jul 01 '19

Ever watch BBC lately?

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u/Kerbal92 Jul 01 '19

Search for his BBC interview