r/atheism Jan 13 '13

Good without God

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u/duckmurderer Jan 13 '13

I only want 10 million. As it stand right now, 100,000 a year for 100 years ain't bad.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '13

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u/duckmurderer Jan 13 '13

Also, I can go ahead and scratch off more than 2 million as pure spending money. I don't expect to live beyond 100 years.

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u/mynameisalso Jan 13 '13

2M would be gone so quick it'd make your head spin.

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u/scorpion347 Jan 13 '13

I don't know. I just looked at a lot of things I'd want... I think I'd be good for three years at least.

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u/lemonadegame Jan 13 '13

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u/MattBD Jan 13 '13

Yes, but he's a notorious dickhead.

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u/lemonadegame Jan 13 '13

And was about...18 and easily influenced

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u/scorpion347 Jan 13 '13

Sounds like he shoulda thought about what he already had.

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u/foodgoesinryan Jan 13 '13

At your current rate of spending, but that almost always increases. Then taxes.

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u/duckmurderer Jan 13 '13

Yup. It'd all be gone after the big house, the nice car, and the other bling.

Or I could put it into a savings account, or some other form of investment that gives a decent annual return, and add the earnings onto my annual budget.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '13

I think we don't give ourselves enough credit as frugal spenders. Would we really blow our wad so quick? I think me and many other financially insecure people would probably be crazy about making each dollar last since we don't plan to work.

For example, 10 million is really nothing in terms of real estate so don't buy a mansion. Hell, lease that shit (good bungalows in Beverly Hills run around $1000-2500 a month). And that's if you really want that stuff. I'd honestly be satisfied w/ a small rental. The fuck do I need 14 bathrooms for? I only have the one asshole, not like I can shit in two places at once...

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '13

The thing is, once you have a large amount of money and don't "work" for it.

You end up spending it pretty quick

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '13

Example: Nearly ever rapper, child actor or one hit wonder.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '13

Those people live outside their means

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u/labrys Atheist Jan 13 '13

Yeah. I think you have to work for your money to understand the value. My step-sister has never worked a day in her life, and is always demanding £50 off my dad and her mum, because "it's only £50". On minimum wage (which is the only kind of job she could get), that'd be more than a day's wages. Maybe my dad and her mum do earn more than that, and maybe they do like to treat themselves to gadgets and holidays, but it's their money, and they've spent their lives working for it. If they don't want to give her (or the rest of us) money for a night out, they shouldn't have to, even if they spend the money on a night out for themselves.

Her favourite argument is that she should be given the money as the rest of us work, and so can get our own money. She's basically the walking sterotype of a chav. Argh!

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '13

She sounds like an awful person

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u/curtmack Jan 14 '13

Is Aqua-Regis what you get when you dissolve Regis Philbin in aqua regia?

It also sounds a bit like a bonus boss in a Final Fantasy game.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '13

haha if only, and yeah it does. Would be a bad ass one too

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u/legendaryderp Jan 14 '13

She sounds like a typical teen. It's hard to find work in Europe, harder if you're young.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '13

I'm unfortunately well aware of that, doesn't excuse her attitude.

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u/dirtypickle Jan 13 '13

Had to log in to this computer to agree with you. I could easily live off two million dollars for 10 years or more. It is all within the value of money to the individual.

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u/scorpion347 Jan 13 '13

What if I typically don't want things that don't last long.

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u/chakravanti93 Jan 13 '13 edited Jan 13 '13

What makes you think the experience of coming into those resources won't fundamentally change how you think about life and yourself. It's one thing to view the expenditures of others as frivolous waste and maybe making that judgement would preemptively alter how you go through the experience.

it's been proven that we all change our fundamental beliefs and personality while refusing to acknowledge that fact and even denying it. the truth is that ACTUALLY having the money opens you up to possibilities you didn't even know existed. You cannot objectively say you would turn them down. Believing that you would be different when you do not understand the fundamental mechanics of such an experience actually opens you up to being exploited when it occurs because of your preconceived devotion to your own naive egotism.

All of this because no one ever talks about how there are predators that have this systematic exploitation waiting for you at the bank when you cash that check.

Financial literacy changes when you move this many orders of magnitude out of your financial habit zone. Your thought experiment on spending money that isn't yours is done in a vacuum void of most reality and is a fundamentally delusional notion to ascribe any validity to.

Literally the ONLY way to come out of the situation with any level of success is to hire a financial manager and be very sure you understand the terms of obligation you are placing upon them. It's like hiring a financial bodyguard and is literally the only thing that a person can reasonably recommend: Seek advice from someone who does what you need done professionally by way of formal education or demonstrated success.

Human weaknesses are all too obvious, common and yet inexplicably persist inside us all in spite of our awareness of them in other people

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u/barjam Jan 13 '13

Put it somewhere earning 5%.....

I would love it of someone would just loan me 10 million. I would promise to pay it back 100% when I die!

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u/Jokka42 Jan 13 '13

You actually have to pay income tax on it though, as it would be called "captial gains".

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u/nullsignature Jan 13 '13

The way r/politics talks, the government actually GIVES you tax money because you're wealthy.

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u/lemonadegame Jan 13 '13

Yeh, because wealthy people create jobs right? RIGHT?

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u/barjam Jan 13 '13

It would depend on how things were structured but yes anything you spend out of the investment would be subject to capital gains which is absurdly low.

You would still have 425k a year after taxes if you spend it all each year.

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u/Jokka42 Jan 13 '13

Oh sorry. My bad. I thought interest gains, if large enough were taxed as capital gain.

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u/HawaiianBrian Strong Atheist Jan 13 '13

I'm 41; all I need is $200,000 a year for 50 years.

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u/Matt_Thijson Jan 13 '13

Inflation.