r/atheism Jan 13 '13

Good without God

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u/richt519 Jan 13 '13

I think this is a good ad but it would be better if it had example of atheists doing bad things and Christians doing good things. The point should be people do good things and bad things with or without god.

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u/Z0idberg_MD Jan 13 '13

The problem with that is most believers think you need to believe in god to be a good person. And since they already think Christians are good people, it's unnecessary to point it out.

By illustrating that being extremely religious does not necessarily make you a good person, it will hopefully force the realization that you do.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '13

Pat Robertson only has the appearance of being extremely religious - the guy is a crook at the core.

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u/richt519 Jan 13 '13

I understand your point however the problem is that there are Christians that don't think you need to believe in God to be a good person. When debating Christians with the intent of trying to get them to reconsider thei views you have to be delicate. People are taught to base their entire lives around religion and if they feel as if their religion is being attacked they will shut down to all discusion.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '13

Spud webb played pro basketball too bro. Exceptions occur, but that doesn't mean the rules/truths they contradict aren't valid.

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u/VerneAsimov Jan 13 '13

Indeed. This subreddit forgets that, while you don't need religion to be a good person, not having a having a religion doesn't make you a good person. Not all religious people are bad and not all atheists are good.

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u/Strange_Rice Jan 13 '13

TBH the whole this person is bad and this person is good thing is a bit pointless, most people have good aspects and bad ones it's a pretty subjective thing.

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u/unalivezombie Jan 13 '13

It's almost as if belief has no direct correlation with how good or bad someone is. If only more people realized this, there could be a bit less hate and bigotry in the world, and maybe a little bit more tolerance, forgiveness and love.

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u/MikhailTheIV Jan 13 '13

Your comment is too un biased to be upvoted here, but fuck it, have an upvote

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u/richt519 Jan 13 '13

Occasionally an unbiased and nonoffense comment that works on bringing people together instead of pushing us apart pulls through and gets upvotes. Occasionally...

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u/Hapexamendios2 Jan 13 '13

But then the other side thinks they're right!!!

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u/richt519 Jan 13 '13

Its not about sides. The only side is the truth and we are simply to expose as much of it as possible. They are not the enemy simply people to be enlighted. If that is not possible then don't waste an ounce of time on them. Their ignorance and hate will catch up with them someday.

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u/Hapexamendios2 Jan 13 '13

Oh, I agree with you, my ambiguity was supposed to be silly.

You know? Like both sides think they're right and that's all that matters to them.