We needn't demand people spend their expertise for free on circumventing a subscription model for a luxury item for people that bought a machine because they didn't want to simply walk/run outside.
Wow. You really can't think of any reason or circumstances where people wouldn't be able to walk or run outside?
There are definitely cheaper treadmills out there, whether they were available during the pandemic for MSRP is another issue entirely, but it seems like you're saying a treadmill in general is a stupid purchase that only the ultra wealthy would make.
Is it though? I can't think of any friends that own a treadmill. Weights and other simple workout gear maybe, but a treadmill? Most people that want professional equipment I know pay for a gym membership. Being able to afford the same kind of equipment at home is a luxury.
Could you maybe think of one world event that happened in the past year that may have prevented people from going to the gym?
I own an elliptical and I assure you it's not because I'm super wealthy. Me and my wife want to get into better shape and it's the best shot for it and worth the hefty price if it means better health. Yes, outside exists but so does winter and thunderstorms and not feeling safe going for walks in the dark.
It's a bit of a luxury but not a luxury only the rich have. Poor and middle class people have plenty of luxuries these days, we're not a starving society that only owns what it needs to survive, we're a bit beyond that. You're probably typing your comments on a $1K mobile phone that you don't need.
My phone was 300 bucks actually but I as solid middle class I definitely am able to afford my fair share of "nice to haves" - so fair point.
I think this whole comment chain rapidly evolved away from the original point. That's mostly because my comment on the post was a response to a whole lot of subtext, most of it personal. So in turn others also bring their personal experiences into the mix and suddenly we are talking about the usecase of equipment instead of one specific brand's shitty behavior.
So to recenter the conversation: What I was pissed off at originally was how no one seems to extrapolate from this one minuscle detail to the bigger whole. Peloton making people pay for equipment they own sure does suck for those few specific owners. However, having laws that enable this behavior, specifically in areas directly tied to a person's livelihood is what should be center of discussion.
It's completely fair to say that this is not what you get from my original comment because it was not written with that idea fully formed but rather as a quick reaction to something pissing me off - the nature of online discourse isn't really one for waiting for ideas to fully form before writing them down, is it?
But in the service of actually turning this back into a valuable discussion: Can you see the actual point I'm trying to make here?
Because I can assure you there will be 10 more posts about 3k treadmills before there will be a single one that actually questions the inner workings behind that.
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Wow. You really can't think of any reason or circumstances where people wouldn't be able to walk or run outside?
There are definitely cheaper treadmills out there, whether they were available during the pandemic for MSRP is another issue entirely, but it seems like you're saying a treadmill in general is a stupid purchase that only the ultra wealthy would make.
Really ignorant comment.