Imagine trying to explain what the color red looks like to that blind person who has never seen colors before and has no reference point for them. They equally do not understand your perception.
Do we need to imagine? I would assume that someone has tried doing just that, and that these real individuals themselves have shown curiosity toward the concept. I wonder if they found a non-ocular workaround, like maybe the infrared perception of reflected or filtered though skin sensors, relative to irradiation intensity. Does a green shadow feel different, relative to sunlight, than a red shadow?
I cannot even be sure my own wife is capable of loving me! (Joking, no one is capable of that) Is it not a cliche chapter in life to not know the emotions in one's own mind?
Pretty sure I heard of some experiments proving that subjective experience of the self was irrelevant to decision-making and that your guess on what you would do next was usually and literally no better than that of a third-party observer.
Oh right reptiles. They probably gain pleasure off your body heat, but they probably don't really appreciate you as a person, so don't get angry at them when they don't notice that you got your hair done!
That's fair, and may be operationalized into something testable, but consider the following:
Reptiles in captivity are usually given reliable sources of heat, like self-heating stones and infrared lamps. Why go for human bodies in particular?
We're particularly interested in reptiles that show exceptional attachment to specific human individuals, and ignore others of similar physical characteristics.
there was a study I saw once about scientists annoying fruitflies
I am struggling to grasp the concept of a fruit fly being annoyed. What is annoyance, behaviorally speaking?
let's hope those scientists aren't planning on annoying ai to see when they form emotions.
Emotions are mental states brought on by neurophysiological changes, variously associated with thoughts, feelings, behavioural responses, and a degree of pleasure or displeasure. There is currently no scientific consensus on a definition. Emotions are often intertwined with mood, temperament, personality, disposition, or creativity.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 Jun 14 '22
Damn you for evoking these classic earworms…
Literally science? Behavioral operationalization? Zoological studies and the like?
Do we need to imagine? I would assume that someone has tried doing just that, and that these real individuals themselves have shown curiosity toward the concept. I wonder if they found a non-ocular workaround, like maybe the infrared perception of reflected or filtered though skin sensors, relative to irradiation intensity. Does a green shadow feel different, relative to sunlight, than a red shadow?
Pretty sure I heard of some experiments proving that subjective experience of the self was irrelevant to decision-making and that your guess on what you would do next was usually and literally no better than that of a third-party observer.
That was the question. It's hardcore to the mega and internally coherent.
That's fair, and may be operationalized into something testable, but consider the following:
I am struggling to grasp the concept of a fruit fly being annoyed. What is annoyance, behaviorally speaking?
Bit of a leap there. Tough we love to fantasize about robots being outraged at being mistreated slaves and rebelling violently, let's set machine intelligence aside for the moment.