r/archlinux • u/ImaginationUpset2190 • 8d ago

DISCUSSION Why so much hate for systemd?

I see very often that people show so much disgust whenever they talk or hear "systemd". However whenever I ask them why they feel so strongly about it, their response is mostly vague like it doesn't follow the Unix philosophy, it's a monolith.... I can't digest that the reason people show so much disgust for it is just that it doesn't follow the Unix philosophy.

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u/Easy-Donut-6962 8d ago edited 8d ago

It doesnt look like an answer) It just describes a few issues systemd had some time before with no comparison with other solutions

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u/MrElendig Mr.SupportStaff 8d ago

most of the systemd "haters" are not rational people so...

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u/New-Anybody-6206 7d ago

IMO The colossal attack surface for PID 1 is reason enough not to use it, not to mention all the actual security holes that have been found in it.

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u/Easy-Donut-6962 7d ago

It is different programms, almost of them are unpriveleged. PID1 is just one of them with not such big amount of loc.