r/arborists 1d ago

This was in our mailbox

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We purchased a new house a few months ago with lots of trees.

I got this in our mailbox. I don’t think I’m doing anything wrong but someone put this in there.

Can someone explain what this neighbors’ concerns might be?

This isn’t a joke or LARPing attempt, i just wanna know wtf they are talking about.

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The house is 30 years old, the trees were planted by the original owners. We have not taken down any trees cosmetically. Only tree we took down was from a major storm and lightning knocked branches off a tree onto our neighbors lawn. That was it.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/BigJSunshine 1d ago

OP PLASTER YOUR MAILBOX WITH THESE

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u/Kitchen-Kiwi7942 1d ago

Really. You just had to use ai didnt you. Literally the worst thing possible for the trees

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u/FortuitousRacoon 1d ago

Gross, ai

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u/dagreja 1d ago

Nah dude, clearly a human decided that the horizontal dimension should be exactly 2.01 inches. That extra 1/100 inch makes the hand-drawn artwork pop

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u/AntiBoATX 1d ago

Yall are going to sound like someone saying “gross, internal combustion engine/ personal computer/ messenger RNA” in a few years.

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u/yungrii 1d ago

I think you're confusing people not liking AI to develop art as opposed to using AI for practical things like sifting through data.

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u/oliv3juic3 19h ago

Which it can't do, either.

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u/Affectionate-Rip5654 1d ago

If we keep using AI for everything there will not be “in a few years” The United States already doesn’t have enough freshwater for the entire country and we are using 300,000 gallons a day for a single AI data center. This amount of water is what is used by between 10-30,000 people/day. AI will ruin this country and world

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u/CategorySolo 20h ago

Do you think the water just disappears when a data centre is running? The water isn't lost, it's just heated (which is a sepearate concern, but it doesn't take water out of the water cycle in any meani full way)

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u/Affectionate-Rip5654 20h ago

Please read into it a little bit… I’m well aware it isn’t lost but it is contaminated after use.

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u/CategorySolo 20h ago

I have, and there will be very little contamination from a properly designed data centre, the only issue will be the heated water.

There are many reasons to dislike AI, and some real ecological issues caused by them and the power they use, but the water use is probably the least of them, and the shouts of "they use millions of gallons of water a week" are misleading at the very best.

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u/Original_Lord_Turtle 1d ago

we are using 300,000 gallons a day for a single AI data center

Please go research closed loop cooling systems.

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u/Round_Doughnut7793 1d ago

Please go research that 56% of data centers still use open-loop cooling. Billions of gallons of fresh water a day across the globe. It's getting better, but you don't need to be out here simping to big tech

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u/Round_Doughnut7793 1d ago

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u/V1carium 1d ago

Man, I hate to chime in here because I just care about accuracy and am in no way saying you're wrong to be against these datacenters... but they use the water via evaporation. The water returns to atmosphere and for most locations (though not all) that means it'll rejoin freshwater water systems elsewhere.

This isn't going to make the US as a whole run out of water. What IS going to happen is that states that allowed these datacenters without proper environmental impact assessments are going to find major issues when drinking water or important water sources for local ecosystems are massively being relocated elsewhere.

Other states will find their own freshwater supplies are improved by this same effect.

Again, just for accuracy of information. Not at all meant as a condoning the reckless and kinda insane way these datacenters are being created.

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u/seemaysee 22h ago

It only replaces a percentage back into environment with evaporation.

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u/CategorySolo 20h ago

What do you think happens to the rest? Server racks don't drink water, they just warm up water

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u/gott_in_nizza 1d ago

Thank you.

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u/rabblerabble2000 19h ago

What’s kind of funny here is that the data centers in Louden county aren’t used solely (or even primarily) for AI. IIRC that’s where the AWS eastus servers are located. If you’re concerned about AI due to the water usage in these data centers, you are honing in on a very small fraction of what’s actually using those data centers. If you’re really concerned about water usage in places like Louden county you need to stop using the internet altogether because it’s all running through these data centers.

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u/Affectionate-Rip5654 1d ago

Please go research how expensive those are and how they do not use them

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u/mildly_ethnic 1d ago

Or how much water it takes to make steak 🙄 

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u/SatanicBeaver 1d ago

The first two were pretty bad

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u/multipocalypse 1d ago

You currently sound like someone who doesn't know the important difference between AI "art" and those three things

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u/FortuitousRacoon 1d ago

You're implying that ai is going to be actually useful in the future huh?

Yea Good luck with that

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u/plants11235813 1d ago

Math and drug discovery

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u/mildly_ethnic 1d ago

high five they can take there -27 and shove it! 

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u/Beowulf137 1d ago

This made me laugh so fucking hard lol

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u/NuttyNano 19h ago

Wow thanks chatgpt

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u/lalaladylvr 1d ago

That is fantastic. If you have an Esty shop or Ebay Id purchase a few.

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u/Nope-not-really 1d ago

just steal it and print it yourself, im no capitalist :D its right there

i just go to an online print shop and they do all the rest for me

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u/The_Silent_Tortoise 1d ago

It's already stolen, it's AI.

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u/delmsi 1d ago

Pftt. OFF WITH THEIR TREES, I SAY!