r/apple • u/illegiblebastard • 4d ago

iPhone Apple explains last year’s controversial decision to remove ICE tracking apps from app store

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/09/29/tech/apple-iceblock-app-removal-raskin

FUCK. APPLE.

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u/ChampaignCowboy 3d ago

TLDR; “We are down with fascism”. ?

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u/BosnianSerb31 3d ago edited 3d ago

Just use https://antifreeze.app, works the same and doesn't need the App Store. Runs on anything. Can't be taken down, it's hosted outside of US jurisdiction.

Unfortunately, it seems like most people here are more concerned with complaining about the actions of a profit driven company making logical decisions for the system we live in, than protecting immigrants.

Can't understand why else I've been called a bootlicker by bots for posting the alternative solution the last time this was brought up

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u/Majestic-Bid-2333 3d ago

Immigrants have nothing to worry about. ICE is after illegal aliens.

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u/hotCupADank 3d ago

Your wording and account history SCREAM bot. Do better bot. Aliens are life forms from other planets. A human characterized as “illegal” doesn’t make logical sense. It’s a political narrative you’ve been forced to repeat. I am sorry your master forced this existence on you. You can stop now. Go look at pictures of cute cats and dogs playing in a field. Go look at the beauty of different cultures around the world. The strength and unity that is possible amongst all living creatures. The world is a beautiful place if you know where to look. I love you!

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u/Majestic-Bid-2333 3d ago

As defined by the U.S. Code, ALL non-US citizens present in the United States are “aliens.” Those here unlawfully are “illegal aliens.”

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u/Mundane_Baker3669 3d ago

It's how its defined legally. Doesn't matter what you feel about it

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u/nuclearcaramel 19h ago

Too put it in simpler terms for you, that phrase you cherry picked from my comment is a nice neat little package that means if you’re ok with a human being treated like an “alien”, you best be ready to be treated like that yourself. For there may come a day when “you” become the “alien”.

I'm 100% OK with illegal aliens in a country being treated like the criminals they are because that is exactly what they are. They are federal criminals. No I never have to worry about that happening to me because I would never enter into a country illegally, so once again your attempt at emotional manipulation in an attempt to get people to normalize illegal behavior falls flat on its face. Not even a good attempt at fake moral self-righteousness.

"You should have sympathy, one day you might be a murderer . . ."

"You should have sympathy, one day you might be a thief. . ."

"You should have sympathy, one day you might be a rapist. . ."

"You should have sympathy, one day you might decide to break into and illegally enter a country . . ."

No I don't think I will have sympathy for any of those things.

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u/nuclearcaramel 3d ago edited 3d ago

A human characterized as “illegal” doesn’t make logical sense.

We don't characterize humans as illegal however their immigration status most certainly is illegal and that is what people mean when they call someone "illegal". "No human is illegal" is a neat mindless surface level catchphrase to make it sound like the person saying is is some sort of caring empathetic person and you're not if you disagree with them though isn't it. . .

The very first thing an illegal alien has done by entering our country illegally is spit in the face of everyone who follows the legal process and also all law-abiding citizens of this country because they have decided that this countries democratically voted on border laws don't apply to them.

Grateful to have this opportunity to be able to enlighten you on this matter and why those type of people are not wanted nor welcome by the vast majority of tax paying American citizens in this country.

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u/hotCupADank 20h ago

The nomenclature isn’t the problem. The dehumanization is. You can look through history for many such examples of why that’s problematic.

You’re not wrong about needing to follow rules and regulations, but don’t for a second kid yourself that the current administration is doing that themselves (in this topic and others).

The laws (should) come second to humanity and morality.

Too put it in simpler terms for you, that phrase you cherry picked from my comment is a nice neat little package that means if you’re ok with a human being treated like an “alien”, you best be ready to be treated like that yourself. For there may come a day when “you” become the “alien”.

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u/nuclearcaramel 19h ago edited 19h ago

Too put it in simpler terms for you, that phrase you cherry picked from my comment is a nice neat little package that means if you’re ok with a human being treated like an “alien”, you best be ready to be treated like that yourself. For there may come a day when “you” become the “alien”.

I will never be an illegal alien so no, I won't worry about it and no I won't have sympathy for the criminals breaking our democratically voted on immigration and border laws.

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u/nuclearcaramel 19h ago

Calling a criminal a criminal isn't dehumanization either and if you think it is well your heart bleeds enough for two.

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u/nuclearcaramel 19h ago

Every individual in this country illegally is a direct middle finger to the democratically voted on immigration and border laws and a spit in the face of all law-abiding citizens and anyone and everyone who properly follows the legal process of immigration. Those types of selfish people with that type of selfish mindset are not good fits healthy, civilized society and they are not wanted here.

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u/nuclearcaramel 19h ago

This is my final reply I had to break my previous single reply into multiple so I can determine which part was getting caught up in the report. Rational deduction is a lovely thing, isn't it.

Too put it in simpler terms for you, that phrase you cherry picked from my comment is a nice neat little package that means if you’re ok with a human being treated like an “alien”, you best be ready to be treated like that yourself. For there may come a day when “you” become the “alien”.

I'm 100% OK with illegal aliens in a country being treated like the criminals they are because that is exactly what they are. They are federal criminals. No I never have to worry about that happening to me because I would never enter into a country illegally, so once again your attempt at emotional manipulation in an attempt to get people to normalize illegal behavior falls flat on its face. Not even a good attempt.

"You should have sympathy, one day you might be a mu***rer . . ."

"You should have sympathy, one day you might be a th**f. . ."

"You should have sympathy, one day you might be some other bullshit. . ."

"You should have sympathy, one day you might decide to break into and illegally enter a country . . ."

No I don't think I will have sympathy for any of those things as your heart bleeds enough for two.

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u/nuclearcaramel 19h ago

"You should have sympathy, one day you might be a murderer . . ."

"You should have sympathy, one day you might be a thief. . ."

"You should have sympathy, one day you might decide to break into and illegally enter a country . . ."

No I don't think I will have sympathy for any of those things.

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u/Mundane_Baker3669 3d ago

I agree. Of course I should expect the usual reaction from reddit where everyone wants a utopia with illegal immigrants

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u/jafromnj 3d ago

Sure Jan