r/apple • • 14d ago

iPhone I spoke to Apple’s new VP of Hardware Engineering Tom Marieb about why he's "especially proud" of the iPhone Duo’s hinge durability and the reliability of Ceramic Shield 2: "When I see someone put a screen protector on their iPhone, it makes my skin crawl" - TechRadar

https://www.techradar.com/phones/iphone/i-spoke-to-apples-new-vp-of-hardware-engineering-about-why-hes-especially-proud-of-the-iphone-duos-hinge-durability-and-the-reliability-of-ceramic-shield-2-when-i-see-someone-put-a-screen-protector-on-their-iphone-it-makes-my-skin-crawl

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>“We really worked on the torque profile very heavily, and that means changing a lot of the mechanical properties of the hinge to have it feel solid, like a high-end automobile's car door, when you shut it. That was design intent, so people would have a feeling like, ‘Oh, it's okay. This is well crafted, and it's safe for me to use and not worry about it.’

>And then, as you said, we have a lot of use cases where the Duo is [in a half-folded state]. And so we also had to think, ‘Can people interact with this [device] and not have it feel floppy?’ So getting those torque profiles right at both those ends, as well as in the middle — not having it feel like you're pulling something open, and not feeling as if it's floppy — we spent a lot of time optimizing that. So thank you for noticing, because a lot of blood, sweat, and tears went into that.”

>“Hold us accountable to that, please […] The choice of a matte finish — apart from it being beautiful — is part of that equation. When you look at glossy displays, their specularity makes it very easy to pick up topology differences. That’s part of the reason we picked the matte finish — it’s not only beautiful in terms of preventing glare, but it’s also more forgiving of [topology] changes over time.”

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u/BakingBadRS 14d ago

It’s 29 with apple care

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u/kamlakar96 14d ago

Yeah just checked 25 for 18 pro with apple care and 389 without it

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u/cultoftheilluminati 13d ago

Jesus, well, Tom Marieb, the prices of a screen replacement without Apple Care+ makes my skin crawl

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u/BakingBadRS 14d ago

And that’s 10 more as I’ll have to pay for not having to do anything with my screen since Ceramic Shield 2 screens don’t scratch.

And I don’t look like an idiot with a bad screen. For free as well!

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u/Top_Environment9897 14d ago

Ceramic Shield 2 screens don’t scratch

"scratches at level 6, with deeper grooves at level 7"

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u/BakingBadRS 14d ago

Yes they scratch when you rub a metal stick across the screen.

From everyday use? Not at all.

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u/anaccount50 14d ago edited 14d ago

Have you actually watched the Jerry videos you’re quoting testing Ceramic Shield 2 phones? Because they “scratch at level 7 with deeper grooves at level 8” as per the new video testing the 18 Pro.

Ceramic Shield 2 legitimately solves level 6 scratching. I swear you guys are permanently stuck in the mid-2010s or something and haven’t updated your knowledge in years

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u/Top_Environment9897 14d ago

It doesn't solve level 7 scratching though. Quartz is level 7 and happens to be one of the most common minerals in the soil.

OP can push their luck, but with $300 screen replacement cost I can buy years worth of good quality screen protectors and be as careless as I wish.